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Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:41 pm
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:41 pm
I am late to the game this year i think. I plan to build me a 6x10 garden for next year. When is the optimal time to plant bellpeppers, onion tops, banana peppers? I am building a raised bed garden and will have my soil tested.

TIA

Any other tips are appreciated. This will be my first garden.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:43 pm to
Peppers need to be planted in spring, usually around April. Onion tops can be planted whenever.
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:16 pm to
6x10 is really not big enough. Those plants you want to plant, you will only get two good rows and those plants need to be spaced no less then 18" apart. 8x10 will get you 3 good rows.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1607 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

fishfighter
quote:

6x10 is really not big enough. Those plants you want to plant, you will only get two good rows and those plants need to be spaced no less then 18" apart. 8x10 will get you 3 good rows


I just want 2 rows. My buddy said for a first time garden it would be better and I could access all the plants from outside the raised bed. Maybe I'll do 6x12, longer if need be.

Thanks for the tips.
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:26 pm to
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My buddy said for a first time garden it would be better and I could access all the plants from outside the raised bed.


You will still have to get in to work the inside of the rows. Not when the plants are small, but when they grow.
Posted by Nodust
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:13 pm to
I would make two beds that are 3 X 10 instead. One row to one raised bed.

As for when. I planted a bananna pepper plant late last July and honestly NEVER made so many peppers as I did last fall. You have time to plant a fall garden but it takes years to have real good soil/humous.

Throw grass clippings on it.
Posted by brmach
Member since Aug 2012
804 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:56 pm to
I probably wouldn't go more than 4' wide. You need to be able to reach the middle and the 2 extra feet doesn't gain much for you with row crops. If you can get peppers to survive the summer, they'll produce again in the fall.
Posted by JJBTiger2012
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
1891 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:52 am to
Any shade OP? Water early every morning and your peppers will grow. I typically produce peppers all summer. Ofcourse it's best to plant early, after last frost, with the rest of your spring crops but peppers are resilient frickers. As for your raised bed try this. Land scape timbers with holes drilled in each corner and mid way through long runs (2 high). If you have access to a welding unit, tack 2" washers to 2' rebar and drive into the holes. You'll be set!
Posted by Ranger198
Member since Oct 2012
794 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:32 am to
I think it has been mentioned but as early as you can after the last frost. Many people including myself will sometimes take a chance with some plants on the timing of this. Good luck.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22802 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:41 am to
If you make a planter 4'. You could stagger plant and get more plants. Make the rows close together plant on 18" triangle pattern.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3116 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:43 am to
Google square foot gardening to get the most out of limites space.

Most all raised bed advice I have seen says to make them 4ft wide as this allows you to reach the center from both sides.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22802 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:45 am to
I think 4' would be about perfect. Find the right pla ting distance. I could pack some plants in tight. Just water and fertilize more.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1607 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 9:31 am to
So basically there isn't much I could plant now? After reading thru here I think I will go with 2 3x10 raised beds. I can try peppers now and see what happens. What can I plant in late Aug early september? I'd like to have fresh bellpeppers, onions, and onion tops for gumbos. Is this possible?

Again I am a newbie gardener so thanks for answering all my basic questions.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3116 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 9:49 am to
you can definately do peppers. I woudl think tomatoes would still do ok if you can still find them at the stores. I dont know about Onions. I tried growing them for the first tiem this year and my dog pretty much squished all of them.

You will have to water alot.

ETA: starting this late, for just a few plants (peppers and tomatoes) I would do containers (5 gallon buckets) instead of a raised bed,
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 9:51 am
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1607 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:19 am to
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Chris4x4gill2


For bellpeppers: Do I need a stick in the bucket for the plant to grow on? How many peppers can I get from one 5 gallon bucket?

Is there a difference between planting onions and onion tops?

Again I am new to this so please excuse the qestions that should be common knowledge.

Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:39 am to
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Is there a difference between planting onions and onion tops?


Onions are just that, onions. Your so called onion tops are charlocks (sp?)/ green onions that make a small bulb under ground.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22802 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:54 am to
Fall tomatoes are planted in July I think. I'm trying some this year.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3116 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:08 am to
quote:

For bellpeppers: Do I need a stick in the bucket for the plant to grow on? How many peppers can I get from one 5 gallon bucket?


Yes, either a stake and tying them for support or a small tomatoe cage is a good idea.

They dont need a stake to "trellis" but once you get peppers on them a good wind or even a hard rain can knock them over. I stake / tied alst year in buckets. This year they are in the ground and i used tomatoe cages.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1607 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Chris4x4gill2
quote:

Yes, either a stake and tying them for support or a small tomatoe cage is a good idea.


Another dumb question. DO you just put the cage around the bellpepper plant and let it grow naturally or is there more to it?

TIA
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