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re: Small ball baseball=four corners basketball
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I would bet Coach wouldn't do it again.
We may never know if he would in that exact situation. But we do know this ... Mainieri has never asked Raph to bunt in that situation in 2 years. Nor Katz and Bregman. I'm not convinced asking a player to do something he has never done before in that situation is right, either.
Whatever his decision, he would be blamed if it didn't work out. Life of a head coach, I guess.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:50 pm to JustSmokin
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Whatever his decision, he would be blamed if it didn't work out. Life of a head coach, I guess.
Probably but would get less heat for the bunt there than the H&R.
He stated something about a bit inning, and imagine he was looking ahead. Maybe sub someone who is adept at bunting to move the runner over.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What are the odds of it actually working with a hitter who was cold on the night? 1 in three, at best?
All Rhymes needed was contact. Rhymes was hitting ground balls. That is perfect for a hit and run. It isn't like he swings and misses a lot. So I would say the odds of it working were very good.
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Are you saying he was wrong for having the bunt on the first two pitches?
No dipshit, I am saying to hit and run on a 2-0 pitch with the best contact hitter on the team when the pitcher has to throw a strike isn't a bad call. Had the ball been fouled off, PM would have gone right back to the bunt on the 2-1 pitch.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:51 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Rhymes was hitting ground balls. That is perfect for a double play.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:55 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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All Rhymes needed was contact.
Which he did.
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Rhymes was hitting ground balls. That is perfect for a hit and run.
Rhymes has hit into an incredible amount of DP's in similar situations.
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It isn't like he swings and misses a lot. So I would say the odds of it working were very good.
no, he hits into a hell of a lot of DP's.
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No dipshit, I am saying to hit and run on a 2-0 pitch with the best contact hitter on the team when the pitcher has to throw a strike isn't a bad call. Had the ball been fouled off, PM would have gone right back to the bunt on the 2-1 pitch.
Sounds like you are over thinking this. Baseball 101, move the runner over, tie the game on a hit to the outfield. He gambled and lost.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:55 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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But give some credit where credit due. Their second baseman made a very difficult turn on that ball to actually turn the DP. If either one of those guys is safe we aren't even discussing this because we tie the game in the 9th inning. It was a nice defensive play.
Youre right, it was. That 2nd baseman was smooth with the turn and got him by a step.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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no, he hits into a hell of a lot of DP's.
Do you know why it's a good idea to put a hit and run on to stay out of DP?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Sounds like you are over thinking this.
I'm not over thinking anything. A fastball coming with my best contact hitter. I don't mind him taking a swing with the runner in motion which 98% of the time prevents a double play from happening.
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He gambled and lost.
Well certainly the gamble didn't work out.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:00 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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I don't mind him taking a swing with the runner in motion which 98% of the time prevents a double play from happening.
Except when raph is the one batting.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:02 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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He gambled and lost.
Well certainly the gamble didn't work out.
Runner on second would have scored on the subsequent base hit to center. I still think he was planning for the win in the 9th instead of just catching up. His quote certainly validates that.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I still think he was planning for the win in the 9th instead of just catching up.
I honestly only think this was the case on that one pitch. He was going to see if Rhymes could make something happen. 2-1 he would have bunted again and been playing for the tie. I don't mind the call at all. Just got an unfortunate ground ball right at the third baseman and the second baseman made a great turn. If the third baseman were one step further back there, they have no play on Katz at second base.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:31 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Just got an unfortunate ground ball right at the third baseman and the second baseman made a great turn. If the third baseman were one step further back there, they have no play on Katz at second base.
Just another reason I dont like Raph swining there.
already showed bunt so 3B is up
2-0 count...watch another
and its raph, just about anyone else im cool with it
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:17 pm to More beer please
a hit and run on 2-0 count--debatable on that call--2-1 is better H&R--once rhymes turned to bunt, pitcher threw 2 outside--he should have continued to square up until their were 2 strikes, and then still try to bunt on 3rd strike--The Bunt was the play there, no doubt. Also, if you are going to hit and run, should'nt the batter hit behind the runner? That means to right field--not a pulled pitch-I dont think the pitch was outside like a lot of ranters are saying--a hit and run requires contact to protect the runner-a foul ball on a inside pitch is accepatable--but bottom line is--the bunt was the play regardless of who is at the plate. Again, a poor game decision by Mainieri.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:40 pm to Godfather1
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West Coast style of play can be enough to get you there. It's not good enough to win titles. The championship teams have a more balanced style.
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Godfather1
Arizona and Fresno State disagree.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:30 pm to PurpleAndGold86
The announcers in the (I think) Superregional were talking in a way that sounded like the smaller seems were very likely to be instituted.
I also thought that it was more the lack of motion that the pitchers could getbon the ball that was the bigger factor. But lack of wind resistance leading to longer drives makes some sense too.
I also thought that it was more the lack of motion that the pitchers could getbon the ball that was the bigger factor. But lack of wind resistance leading to longer drives makes some sense too.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:38 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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I honestly only think this was the case on that one pitch. He was going to see if Rhymes could make something happen. 2-1 he would have bunted again and been playing for the tie.
It's just a guess. I was surprised to see him swinging away on 2-0. Don't have a clue what he would have done on 2-1.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 8:42 am to lsuhunt555
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Who wants baseball without home runs.
The NCAA...
The CWS stadium has taken the excitement of a multi-run deficit comeback pretty much out of the game.
There is almost no chance of a HR being hit to Center field, maybe a" small" chance to right and left..but even the wind flows differently in this stadium (against the HR odds).
Welcome to "boring baseball", at least if you think HRs are / should be part of the game.
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