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re: Kornheiser: Nadal has removed Federer from the discussion of G.O.A.T
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:19 pm to Patrick_Bateman
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:19 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
Being better than Federer now does not make Nadal better than Federer all-time. Federer is the GOAT. Nadal may get there, but he's not there yet.
Thanks captain obvious
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:30 pm to barry
Nadal is 4-5 in Finals of the Grand Slams not named the French Open. Nadal is clearly the greatest clay court player ever, though Borg is probably in that conversation, but Nadal doesn't have the multi-surface dominance of other great players. Federer has 9 hard court titles to go with his 7 grass court titles. Sampras was 7 and 7. Rod Laver and Roy Emerson won each Grand Slam at least twice, the only to guys to do that.
And, we've had this argument before and I really don't feel like re-hashing it because it's pretty boring, but I feel this is a profoundly weak era of men's tennis. The fact that so few people are winning titles is a bit of an indictment of the overall depth of talent in this era. I actually think the women's field has never been stronger, so this isn't quite back in the dayism. But only a small group absolutely dominating the field normally is a sign that the overall field isn't that good.
And while we're looking at dynamism, I'd submit McEnroe is the greatest player of all time because he was great at both singles and doubles. In fact, he's considered the greatest doubles player ever.
And, we've had this argument before and I really don't feel like re-hashing it because it's pretty boring, but I feel this is a profoundly weak era of men's tennis. The fact that so few people are winning titles is a bit of an indictment of the overall depth of talent in this era. I actually think the women's field has never been stronger, so this isn't quite back in the dayism. But only a small group absolutely dominating the field normally is a sign that the overall field isn't that good.
And while we're looking at dynamism, I'd submit McEnroe is the greatest player of all time because he was great at both singles and doubles. In fact, he's considered the greatest doubles player ever.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 4:35 pm to barry
quote:Frick off.
Thanks captain obvious
From the OP:
quote:
But what [Nadal] established is that Roger Federer is not the greatest of all time. . . He's removed Roger Federer from that discussion.
My comment:
quote:I was disagreeing with the quote in the OP. Evidently, it's not as obvious to everyone as it is to you.
Federer is the GOAT.
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