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re: Steele's CFB 2013 Top-15 (SIAP)
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:06 pm to Billy Mays
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:06 pm to Billy Mays
It's like Joe Lunardi picking "64 of the 68 right" since I could fing pick 60 without any work
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:12 pm to tmc94
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He's fricking awful and it bugs me that people actually use him as a reference
I get his mag for the stats. and past results...........
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:14 pm to Zamoro10
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#6
I'm a homer but USC is going to suck. Our QB situation is bad and the play-caller is still on the sideline being Kiffin.
And two serious injuries away from having walk ons as 2nd string.
Did you hear about Fr. WR Steve Mitchell today? Heard he was running with the ones he is so polished. Blew out his knee. Pretty badly from what I heard.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:22 pm to dukke v
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I get his mag for the stats. and past results...........
This. If you can wade thru the b.s. you will get way more info from his mag than any other by a mile
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:25 pm to A2
That sucks. USC always has the injury bug and these days it can cost you a game or two...Stanford, etc.
Maybe Vegas and Steele know something USC doesn't.
USC full season odds released by Vegas:
USC is favored by 21 over Washington State
USC is favored by 21.5 over Boston College
USC-Arizona State is even
USC is favored by 7 over Arizona
Notre Dame is favored by 5 over USC
USC is favored by 18 over Utah
Oregon State is favored by 2 over USC
USC is favored by 1 over Stanford
USC is favored by 17 over California
USC is favored by 24.5 over Colorado
USC is favored by 7 over UCLA
So USC is favored in every game but two road games - @ Notre Dame and @ Corvallis (where USC always struggles.)
Since home field is worth typically 3 points...USC is technically only an underdog in ONE game...by 2 points against ND.
Maybe Vegas and Steele know something USC doesn't.
USC full season odds released by Vegas:
USC is favored by 21 over Washington State
USC is favored by 21.5 over Boston College
USC-Arizona State is even
USC is favored by 7 over Arizona
Notre Dame is favored by 5 over USC
USC is favored by 18 over Utah
Oregon State is favored by 2 over USC
USC is favored by 1 over Stanford
USC is favored by 17 over California
USC is favored by 24.5 over Colorado
USC is favored by 7 over UCLA
So USC is favored in every game but two road games - @ Notre Dame and @ Corvallis (where USC always struggles.)
Since home field is worth typically 3 points...USC is technically only an underdog in ONE game...by 2 points against ND.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:30 pm to Zamoro10
USC is going to have a great defense. If it stays healthy and can tackle some in practice, they should keep games close with anyone. They are a big gamble though at #6.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:31 pm to A2
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And two serious injuries away from having walk ons as 2nd string.
Did you hear about Fr. WR Steve Mitchell today? Heard he was running with the ones he is so polished. Blew out his knee. Pretty badly from what I heard.
That sucks. He looked really good at the all american army game - dominate.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:32 pm to bisonduck
Kiffin says: this year we will tackle in practice!
Injuries already.
Probably go back to walk-thrus...and play that way in games like last year.
Injuries already.
Probably go back to walk-thrus...and play that way in games like last year.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:38 pm to Zamoro10
I hope you guys have a center because the Stanford/USC game was on the Pac - 12 the other night (the games that you can watch in an hour - how cool is that) and the drop off after Khaled Holmes was dreadful.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:48 pm to tmc94
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He's fricking awful and it bugs me that people actually use him as a reference
I'll still read his stuff though. I really can't get into anyone's preseason predictions. There is plenty of other info in there that makes it worth the read I think.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:49 pm to Billy Mays
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Phil Steele, IMO, used to be a respected voice when it comes to CFB...
it was a hell of a lot easier to make picks before nearly every game was on TV and scholarship limits kicked in.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:55 pm to Zamoro10
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That sucks. USC always has the injury bug and these days it can cost you a game or two...Stanford, etc.
Maybe Vegas and Steele know something USC doesn't.
No way should USC be favored over Stanford.
The spread over UCLA seems really high too.
USC has a pretty easy schedule. Miss out on Oregon (which USC would likely be 7 point underdogs or so) and Washington (which you would probably be favored by around 5-7 points I'm guessing).
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:36 pm to TDawg1313
Getting Stanford and Oregon State is the equivalent of Oregon and UW. I am bullish on Oregon State as the third in the NORTH. UW has to show me that the oline is Pac - 12 quality even with the experience. They were a dreadful unit talent wise and I get the feeling that experience is like putting lipstick on a pig.
I have Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, UW, Cal and Wazzu as my picks for the North. The fact that they get Oregon State in Corvalis makes the schedule about as difficult as they could expect.
I have Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, UW, Cal and Wazzu as my picks for the North. The fact that they get Oregon State in Corvalis makes the schedule about as difficult as they could expect.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:42 pm to dukke v
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I get his mag for the stats. and past results...........
oh the preview is great
I stopped getting it now that the interwebz has so much out there. But it has more info than anywhere in magazine format. But once he gets beyond reporting facts he's fricking useless
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:46 pm to bisonduck
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Getting Stanford and Oregon State is the equivalent of Oregon and UW.
Yeah true. You reminded me how those rotations worked.
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UW has to show me that the oline is Pac - 12 quality even with the experience. They were a dreadful unit talent wise and I get the feeling that experience is like putting lipstick on a pig.
We were dreadful in pass protection, but above average in run blocking. We're fully healthy this year and a year more experienced, so I expect us to be good at run blocking and hopefully average at pass protection. Instead of running a bunch of beat-up underclassmen out there, they'll be healthy upperclassmen. So hopefully we do see improvement, but I'm skeptical until I see it.
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I have Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, UW, Cal and Wazzu as my picks for the North.
Sound about right. I think it's in 3 tiers..
Stanford/Oregon
Oregon St./UW
Cal/WSU
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:50 pm to tmc94
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But it has more info than anywhere in magazine format
YES IT DOES............
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But once he gets beyond reporting facts he's fricking useless
I agree here. He is a bookie that sells a mag............
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:52 pm to TDawg1313
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We were dreadful in pass protection, but above average in run blocking. We're fully healthy this year and a year more experienced, so I expect us to be good at run blocking and hopefully average at pass protection. Instead of running a bunch of beat-up underclassmen out there, they'll be healthy upperclassmen. So hopefully we do see improvement, but I'm skeptical until I see it.
The run blocking was actually pretty decent. I don't know how to grade it. I got the feeling that DCs were actually scheming the passing game. I know that Oregon schemed the passing game and Stanford looked the same. I am not sure about after that when Sankey looked legit and I stopped watching them.
ETA: UW doesn't seem to have a true tackle either. Big problem in pass protection. Maybe Hatchie will take a step forward because he was evaluated very well coming out of high school.
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 6/7/13 at 6:19 pm to 4ngel
Doesn't he base his rankings off of predictions on how each team will finish the season? That doesn't make it any better but he uses a crapload of numbers regarding schedules, depth, and tendencies when he makes predictions.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 6:29 pm to Billy Mays
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Phil Steele, IMO, used to be a respected voice when it comes to CFB...
... but lately he's gone full retard.
Somewhere around '08 he completely lost his touch. He had a ridiculously accurate prediction rate before that.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 6:33 pm to 4ngel
It's Steele. He's horrible.
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