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Analyzing Pelican Players and How to Fit Talents Together

Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:30 pm
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:30 pm
Big summer for the Pels. Who to resign, who to draft, who to go after in FA? Where do they find the missing piece(s)? How do we make sense of the options that will work best for this team?

Tom Ziller and Bethleham Shoals were big on this idea of positional revolution. You can read about it here and here. They came up with a chart to depict a player's skill set and they called it the Z Graph:




The top row is traditional pg skillset and the bottom row is traditional c skillset. Most players will have linked skills (Lopez is only on the bottom, Vasquez is only the top), but a guy like Ryan Anderson is on both ends of the spectrum.

(If there is interest, the board could come to consensus on skills of players and perhaps someone with photoshop abilities could alter the chart for Pels players)

They also came up with a graph for how these skills overlap in a team context



This is from the 2010-2011 Heat, so it's outdated. But the idea is the same. Find a collection of players that cover all of the skills on the graph.

(Again, if there is interest, maybe some one with the photoshop know how could put it together?)

This is more of a blueprint than anything else. But it's a different way to think about building the team. This can help put context on where the team needs to focus on improving.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116230 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:35 pm to
I'm not going to lie. At first I looked at this and said: frick that. So goddamned complicated, I feel like its 15 years ago and I'm in a college math class.

But now I get it. Pretty cool tool.

And no I'm not doing it.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34370 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Fit


I feel like z charts are a little quirky, but the idea is legit. Aminu filling the rebounding need is a perfect example from this year. What we need is more players with diverse skills.

However, as you can see, guys with lots of skills can make up for others with less than average skills.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116230 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:53 pm to
Vasquez: 3, Pa, Le, Fe, Rb
Gordon: 3, St, Pa, OD, Sc
Aminu: OD, Rb, ID, St
Davis: St, Le, Fe, OD, Md, %, ID, Rb, Bk
Lopez: Po, Rb, Po

I'm projecting on Davis because I think his Defense and Midrange game will improve greatly.

Agree at all with the list?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61569 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:57 pm to
I understand the Periodic Table, but I'm a bit confused about the Airport Map. Is there a set number to aim for? Would Anderson be included even though he isn't a starter?
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8514 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 3:38 pm to
This graph blew my mind.

Good stuff
Posted by kjayb51
Member since Mar 2011
160 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 7:32 am to
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 5:07 pm to
Here's what I got:

Vasquez: Le Pa 3 Md Rb
Gordon: Pa ST 3 Fe Od Sc Md
Aminu: St OD % Rb Bk
Davis: St Fe % Rb ID Bk
Lopez: Md % Po Rb ID Bk
Anderson: Le 3 Sc Md % Rb
Rivers: Pa Fe Od
Smiht: Le Fe Md % Rb ID Bk
Roberts: Pa 3 Md

Le: 3
Pa: 4
St: 2
3: 3
Fe: 2
OD: 4
Sc: 2
Md: 6
%: 5
Po: 1
Rb: 6
ID: 3
Bk: 4

Best 5 of Vasquez/Gordon/Aminu/Anderson/Davis:

Le: 2
Pa: 2
St: 3
3: 3
Fe: 2
OD: 2
Sc: 2
Md: 3
%: 3
PO: 0
Rb: 3
ID: 1
Bk: 2
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34370 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 7:15 am to
Bump. I'm going to start pulling this info over into the prospect thread
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