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re: Game of Thrones Season 3 Episode 2: Dark Wings, Dark Words - NO SPOILERS thread
Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:56 am to TDTGodfather
Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:56 am to TDTGodfather
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i agree with all you said. it's hard to believe that tywin can't overlook whoring for a son that is actually a good strategist and a much better leader of men than his grandson who in essence started this whole shite storm with killing ned.
It seems Tywin legitimately believes Tyrion is at fault for killing his mom/Tywins wife.
That or Tywin is so egotistical that he is quite literally ashamed that he could have produced an imp.
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 12:01 pm to hiltacular
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That or Tywin is so egotistical that he is quite literally ashamed that he could have produced an imp.
This is definitely part of it. Dwarves are seen as monsters, and would normally be killed at birth if not for being high born.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 12:04 pm to hiltacular
I'm jumping on the Tywin/Tyrion train 
This idea just popped in my head, it could be crazy, but I feel like there's something to it. Tyrion is DEFINITELY a blindspot for Tywin and he (Tywin) clearly blames him for her death. Do we know who the mother was? I may have forgotten, but is it possible Tywin's wife was the center of a scheme Tywin had concocted to secure the throne for himself? Her untimely demise threw that scheme out the window so now Tywin lost his shot and has to be content with his Plan B which puts a Lannister on the throne, but not HIM. Maybe THAT'S why he resents Tyrion so much. I find it a stretch to think he was just so in love with her that her death made him super sad. But again, if she wasn't connected to the throne this idea kinda goes out the window.
I mean, the show IS called the Game of Thrones for a reason.
This idea just popped in my head, it could be crazy, but I feel like there's something to it. Tyrion is DEFINITELY a blindspot for Tywin and he (Tywin) clearly blames him for her death. Do we know who the mother was? I may have forgotten, but is it possible Tywin's wife was the center of a scheme Tywin had concocted to secure the throne for himself? Her untimely demise threw that scheme out the window so now Tywin lost his shot and has to be content with his Plan B which puts a Lannister on the throne, but not HIM. Maybe THAT'S why he resents Tyrion so much. I find it a stretch to think he was just so in love with her that her death made him super sad. But again, if she wasn't connected to the throne this idea kinda goes out the window.
I mean, the show IS called the Game of Thrones for a reason.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 12:06 pm to hiltacular
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It seems Tywin legitimately believes Tyrion is at fault for killing his mom/Tywins wife.
That or Tywin is so egotistical that he is quite literally ashamed that he could have produced an imp.
true, probably a little of both.
that's what i like about the show, they really humanize tywin when arya is his cup bearer and then go with him being cold to his own flesh and blood.
once again, blackwater really should've been thing that tywin embraced tyrion for, and he just pushes him away further. you can see tyrion does respect his father although he may not like him but that battle was a chance for tyrion to get some respect despite his father not necessarily likeing him. tywin gave him neither.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 12:11 pm to hiltacular
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It seems Tywin legitimately believes Tyrion is at fault for killing his mom/Tywins wife.
That or Tywin is so egotistical that he is quite literally ashamed that he could have produced an imp.
It's both, thus why he is so blind to Tyrion's positive attributes.
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