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Draft analysis - Trading back?
Posted on 4/6/13 at 11:05 am
Posted on 4/6/13 at 11:05 am
Saw this article posted to saintsreport.com yesterday and thought I'd share. Some good analysis on the saints options in the draft specifically trading back, something that I'm sure many would agree might not be a bad option.
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Posted on 4/6/13 at 11:24 am to cashflippa
I'd love that trade back scenario with Ogletree at 23, then Mathieu later. That would be the ideal for me, though I know many would disagree.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 11:35 am to cashflippa
I have several issues with this article(like ILB being one of the bigger needs and Bushrod being a great mid round pick when he only ever played like a mid round pick) but I took the biggest issue with this:
"so drafting a proven OLB would be a priority"
NONE of these guys are proven. That's why you get so many busts every year, even the "can't miss" guys(like the recently relased McClain).
Edit:
This line in particular is full of fail:
"It is unlikely that Brodrick Bunkley will see a full-time starting role at NT if the Saints can improve by finding a player in the draft. Bunkley did perform well in the 3-4 at NT during his time in Denver as a great run stopper. The restructuring of his contract suggests he will stick around for a bit longer, but it is clear that he is not the answer, certainly not for every play at the very least."
Bunkley will be the starter(and play most of the snaps) unless Hicks plays as well as we think he can, but then he might replace Smith instead(he is slotted as Smith's backup). A draft pick won't replace him.
Broncos didn't run the 3-4 with him.
And Spags didn't even give this guy a chance(just like he held back Hicks, Wilson, and Galette) so we do not know that he is not the answer.
Edit2:
He completely forgot about Hawthorne. Holder just said the team doesn't feel like there's an opening at safety.
And to go back to oline talent, we found Evans and Nicks in the later rounds and that's it. Nicks was only there because of off the field issues but had first round talent. Bushrod was not great and Tennant and soon to be Brown are busts.
To keep saying that we can magically shite out an awesome mid to late round olineman because we ONCE drafted someone nobody knew about is absurd. If they knew Evans would be that good they would not have taken him that late.
"so drafting a proven OLB would be a priority"
NONE of these guys are proven. That's why you get so many busts every year, even the "can't miss" guys(like the recently relased McClain).
Edit:
This line in particular is full of fail:
"It is unlikely that Brodrick Bunkley will see a full-time starting role at NT if the Saints can improve by finding a player in the draft. Bunkley did perform well in the 3-4 at NT during his time in Denver as a great run stopper. The restructuring of his contract suggests he will stick around for a bit longer, but it is clear that he is not the answer, certainly not for every play at the very least."
Bunkley will be the starter(and play most of the snaps) unless Hicks plays as well as we think he can, but then he might replace Smith instead(he is slotted as Smith's backup). A draft pick won't replace him.
Broncos didn't run the 3-4 with him.
And Spags didn't even give this guy a chance(just like he held back Hicks, Wilson, and Galette) so we do not know that he is not the answer.
Edit2:
He completely forgot about Hawthorne. Holder just said the team doesn't feel like there's an opening at safety.
And to go back to oline talent, we found Evans and Nicks in the later rounds and that's it. Nicks was only there because of off the field issues but had first round talent. Bushrod was not great and Tennant and soon to be Brown are busts.
To keep saying that we can magically shite out an awesome mid to late round olineman because we ONCE drafted someone nobody knew about is absurd. If they knew Evans would be that good they would not have taken him that late.
This post was edited on 4/6/13 at 11:48 am
Posted on 4/6/13 at 11:35 am to cashflippa
That's a pretty good article. It mirrors a decent bit of stuff that's been discussed here over the weeks but well put together. This is definitely the most volatile draft in years. Should be exciting no matter what. (:Defense CLAP CLAP:)
Posted on 4/6/13 at 11:50 am to cashflippa
We need to keep trading back and get about 10 fifth round draft picks. That's where you find great playmakers!
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