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re: What's the hardest collegiate championship to win? (football, bball, baseball)
Posted on 4/2/13 at 1:11 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 4/2/13 at 1:11 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Legit championship = won on field
I'm pretty sure college games are still played on the field and the results of those do factor in to who "wins" the title. You (and most other people) think only a specially designated final game legitimizes a championship.
The problem with CFB is, there are too many teams playing different schedules, so it's rare that you have 1 team that clearly distinguishes itself as the best through the regular season. Sometimes (I'd argue 2011 was one such time) one team does, but most of the time there is too much subjectivity. So the fairest solution is to have a limited # of teams in a playoff. Keeping it exclusive keeps the intgrity of the regular season in tact, while still giving all teams a chance to control their won destiny.
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Legit championship = won on field Not legit championships = voted on
-------------------------------------------------At large bids to postseason play is voted on as well
Outstanding point. In college sports there has to be some cutoff and that will involve some degree of subjective voting.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 1:17 pm to H-Town Tiger
It depends on if your school is a media darling or not. For teams like Texas, alabama, ND, LSU, USC, Ohio State etc.. football is the easiest. You play 12 games 7-8 of those are against teams that have no chance to beat you so if you can just go 3-1 or so in the others you have a shot to play for a national title. If you aren't one of those schools, or close to it, it's the hardest because you have to be perfect.
For basketball and baseball it's the opposite because all you have to do to win either of those titles is be average in the regular season and then get hot for a month and you are the champion. So that makes it much easier for non-traditional powers or lesser teams to steal a title.
For basketball and baseball it's the opposite because all you have to do to win either of those titles is be average in the regular season and then get hot for a month and you are the champion. So that makes it much easier for non-traditional powers or lesser teams to steal a title.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 1:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The problem with CFB is, there are too many teams playing different schedules, so it's rare that you have 1 team that clearly distinguishes itself as the best through the regular season. Sometimes (I'd argue 2011 was one such time) one team does, but most of the time there is too much subjectivity. So the fairest solution is to have a limited # of teams in a playoff. Keeping it exclusive keeps the intgrity of the regular season in tact, while still giving all teams a chance to control their won destiny.
IMO best way to do that is split off the lower-FBS conferences, and have an 8 team playoff in the current BCS level (5 Conf Champs and 3 at large).
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:02 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I'm pretty sure college games are still played on the field and the results of those do factor in to who "wins" the title. You (and most other people) think only a specially designated final game legitimizes a championship.
The problem with CFB is, there are too many teams playing different schedules, so it's rare that you have 1 team that clearly distinguishes itself as the best through the regular season. Sometimes (I'd argue 2011 was one such time) one team does, but most of the time there is too much subjectivity. So the fairest solution is to have a limited # of teams in a playoff. Keeping it exclusive keeps the intgrity of the regular season in tact, while still giving all teams a chance to control their won destiny.
The results on the field matter for some teams and don't matter for others. Its 100% subjective a 4 team "playoff" changes nothing.
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At large bids to postseason play is voted on as well
At large bids don't matter because you have the ability to objectively take them out of the equation.
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