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re: Ideal Pelicans First Offseason 2013
Posted on 3/20/13 at 1:15 am to THRILLHO
Posted on 3/20/13 at 1:15 am to THRILLHO
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Wow, quite the nugget. Dude, Ryno and Gasol's contracts are fricking $10m apart this season. We are right up against the cap, meaning we would have to include $10m in contracts along with Anderson in the Gasol trade. Now play around with our player salaries, come up with a trade that works, and let me know if you think an already horseshite trade rumor looks more or less likely than it did before you read this post
This trade would have to happen this summer. This summer, the Pelicans are more than 20 million under the cap. Anderson and Vasquez have a combined number around 10 million, so the Pelicans would have to swallow about 8-9 million in a trade. I think this is still legal, but if it's not then the trade could never happen anyway. I'm sure someone will correct me if it can't happen.
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c) be limited with our options in 2013/14 because Gasol's contract ate up our flexibility
I believe our option this off season is to take on a trade, that's how we will use the cap space. Turning two back-ups (and if we draft Smart, that's what Vasquez is) for a borderline all star level Center for a year. Then yes, I will take that. If you want to beat down how great of back-ups Vasquez and Anderson can be, then be my guest. But in my "ideal" world, my franchise PF gets to play 36+ minutes without looking over his shoulder or having to play Center cause we have no one else who can.
Posted on 3/20/13 at 1:21 am to brmark70816
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I will take that. If you want to beat down how great of back-ups Vasquez and Anderson can be, then be my guest.
Anderson can be a good starter.
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But in my "ideal" world, my franchise PF gets to play 36+ minutes without looking over his shoulder or having to play Center cause we have no one else who can.
good point...AD is the most important part of this puzzle. I just think it's a little too soon to say he isn't/can't be a center.
Posted on 3/20/13 at 1:28 am to brmark70816
We're trying to get young talent here. I don't see how throwing away 2 young, cheap, talented players for an old expensive player helps us
I think the "mentor" aspect is overrated
I think the "mentor" aspect is overrated
Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:02 am to brmark70816
I like your posts because they are almost always offer a different take than most around here.
I agree with your idea that a trade is the best route- other than this years probably top 5 pick, I think they are most likely to find a core piece that way
But I don't think this proposal works because it just isn't sustainable.
That roster gets you 45-50 wins and the playoffs. What then?
1) You let the vets walk. Barring a miracle, you just took steps back in the win column by losing 3/5 of your starters. And now you've got tons of cap space for a small market team :( Demps is reduced to trying to pull trades again for high priced vets
2) You resign players, if they even want to stay in NO, on the wrong side of 30 to keep around the first winner in three years. Meanwhile these old guys are going to be declining horribly just as AD is entering his prime and needs his max extension. :(
3) Thank to a playoff spot, the draft pick is in the 20s. You have Davis/Smart/Rivers? to build around. Smart better be the second coming or that core is in trouble.
I think going after one pricey vet makes sense, but three, all with one year deals just doesn't fit Davis's timeline- which is the only one this teams needs to be worrying about.
I agree with your idea that a trade is the best route- other than this years probably top 5 pick, I think they are most likely to find a core piece that way
But I don't think this proposal works because it just isn't sustainable.
That roster gets you 45-50 wins and the playoffs. What then?
1) You let the vets walk. Barring a miracle, you just took steps back in the win column by losing 3/5 of your starters. And now you've got tons of cap space for a small market team :( Demps is reduced to trying to pull trades again for high priced vets
2) You resign players, if they even want to stay in NO, on the wrong side of 30 to keep around the first winner in three years. Meanwhile these old guys are going to be declining horribly just as AD is entering his prime and needs his max extension. :(
3) Thank to a playoff spot, the draft pick is in the 20s. You have Davis/Smart/Rivers? to build around. Smart better be the second coming or that core is in trouble.
I think going after one pricey vet makes sense, but three, all with one year deals just doesn't fit Davis's timeline- which is the only one this teams needs to be worrying about.
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