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re: Watching Roots and its making me sick
Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:47 am to Methuselah
Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:47 am to Methuselah
1) The willing complicity of black Africans in the slave trade is one of the biggest "secrets" (i.e., coverup) in the history of slavery.
2) There were some sadistic bastards the owned slaves or were overseers; however, the majority of slaveowners were businessmen who realized that slaves were a substantial capital investment that did him no good if they were injure or dead. Read Time on the Cross.
2) There were some sadistic bastards the owned slaves or were overseers; however, the majority of slaveowners were businessmen who realized that slaves were a substantial capital investment that did him no good if they were injure or dead. Read Time on the Cross.
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:26 am to udtiger
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The willing complicity of black Africans in the slave trade is one of the biggest "secrets"
Any good books on this?
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:36 am to udtiger
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1) The willing complicity of black Africans in the slave trade is one of the biggest "secrets" (i.e., coverup) in the history of slavery.
2) There were some sadistic bastards the owned slaves or were overseers; however, the majority of slaveowners were businessmen who realized that slaves were a substantial capital investment that did him no good if they were injure or dead. Read Time on the Cross.
Oh, well shite. That makes it all ok then.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:34 am to udtiger
I didn't think it was a secret that Africans were complicit in the slave trade with the Europeans. It was taught to me in school, although not in much detail.
Of course most Americans are dumb so maybe it is a secret. After all 2.5 Men still draws big ratings.
Of course most Americans are dumb so maybe it is a secret. After all 2.5 Men still draws big ratings.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 12:08 pm to udtiger
Wow. People in here actually trying to lessen the disgustingness of slavery. Slavery is a deplorable part of human history, American or otherwise. The very fact of treating people as property is deplorable. It doesn't matter who did the selling either. If I sell my child into a human trafficking ring does that lessen the wrong?
Same people in here probably all thought any mistreatment ended when slaves were freed and refuse to recognize Jim Crow laws, segregation, redlining, etc. Any attempt to justify or lessen the atrocities committed against oppressed people is ignorant and simple minded.
Same people in here probably all thought any mistreatment ended when slaves were freed and refuse to recognize Jim Crow laws, segregation, redlining, etc. Any attempt to justify or lessen the atrocities committed against oppressed people is ignorant and simple minded.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 12:20 pm to udtiger
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1) The willing complicity of black Africans in the slave trade is one of the biggest "secrets" (i.e., coverup) in the history of slavery.
A cover-up?
I'd say it is extremely well documented that without African help, slave trade numbers would have been drastically less.
Also, what's your overall point? Seems like a random thing to mention unless you're trying to downplay how horrendous slavery was.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:31 am to udtiger
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Read Time on the Cross.
Most historians consider this work to be outdated, mainly due to its use of cliometrics (basically using science to measure history), as in measuring the happiness of a slave based on his output and/or rations.
The Peculiar Institution by Kenneth Stamp is a far superior work, as it debunks many of the racist myths about American slavery and blacks in general, like that blacks broke their tools because they were too stupid to operate them (they were in fact engaging in a form of passive resistance).
Posted on 2/18/13 at 8:59 am to udtiger
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There were some sadistic bastards the owned slaves or were overseers; however, the majority of slaveowners were businessmen who realized that slaves were a substantial capital investment that did him no good if they were injure or dead. Read Time on the Cross.
This. Slaves were like prized cattle. They worked hard and the slave owner provided them with a meal. They were also very expensive. It doesn't makes sense to injure your prized bull. But, ROOTS came out, and all of a sudden became a documentary, instead of a fictional story.
Not saying abuse didn't happen, but ROOTS is the worst case of fictional movie turned biography. JFK following in second.
This post was edited on 2/18/13 at 9:00 am
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