re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt?

I just got to the fight scene. Hector didn't hurt achillies, but he was a millimeter from cutting his chest open. Even Achilles was taken aback.

And anyone saying Hector wasn't 50/50 with him till that point is fricking delusional IMO. Great fight scene.

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Ok. You guys aren't being fair to Maximus.

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www.mythagora.com

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Achilles was the son of King Peleus and the Nereid, Thetis. His birth was the result of the union between a mortal (Peleus) and an Immortal (Thetis), which made Achilles semi-divine.

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Hector at least made Achilles sweat a little

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That was a movie. IRL, Achilles was part god

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...With the onslaught of Achilles in his unstoppable anger, Hector lost his nerve and began to run. Every time Hector tried to reach the safety of the city walls, Achilles would cut him off and force him back to open ground. King Priam watched the spectacle from the walls but was powerless to help his doomed son. Achilles chased Hector four times around the city until finally he stopped and faced Achilles, ready to fight

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He also had a f'ing bad shield.

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Achilles's shield was massive and made of bronze and tin, with three folds on the rim and five in the center ... the strap was made of silver. Hephaistos inscribed the earth, the sea, the sun, the moon and the stars on the face of the shield. Two cities were also visible on the face of the shield. In one city, the animated population was depicted in various forms of public activities ... a wedding ceremony with dancers and singers ... apart from the wedding, two men were arguing in the marketplace before an assembly of elders. The other city was being besieged by two armies ... Athene and Ares (god of War) were on the battlefield ... Eris (goddess of Discord) stalked through the warfare dragging three men ... one was wounded, one was unhurt and the other was dead ... her clothing was stained with blood.

The shield of Achilles also had majestic scenes with noblemen, farmers, and children. The figures were made of gold and animated to reflect the work of men and kings in everyday life. There were scenes where lions were eating the torn flesh of oxen while the herdsmen's dogs bayed ineffectually at the savage beasts. There was a dancing floor with young men in tunics and women dressed in long, light robes. The dancers ran or formed rows which crisscrossed one another. Two acrobats led the spectators in song.

Finally, Hephaistos rimmed the shield with Okeanos (Ocean) for strength. He then turned his craft to the armor which would protect Achilles's body. He made a bright corselet, an intricate helmet with a gold top-ridge and grieves of pliable tin to protect Achilles's legs.

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and he kept getting help from the gods (who planned out the whole thing).

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the goddess Athene came invisibly to him and placed ambrosia and nectar in his breast so that he would be able to fight when the time came

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Maximus might be smart but he wouldn't have been fast enough to challenge him.

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Achilles was fast, he was the fastest runner in either army ... many Trojans simply had no choice but to fight or be stabbed in the back with Achilles's massive spear.

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or tough enough.

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any man who came within stabbing distance fell to Achilles's spear....Achilles charged back into the Trojan lines and started killing men and chariot horses without discrimination.

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He was the Honey Badger of his day. Did and took what he wanted.

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Achilles had a massive funeral pyre built for Patroklos and made elaborate sacrifices to his dead companion. Achilles killed sheep, oxen, nine of Patroklos's dogs and twelve young Trojan men to be placed on the pyre with Patroklos's body.

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