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Posted on 12/28/12 at 12:54 am to JohnLSU
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The guy is 22 years old...young kids tends to do stupid shite.
In the Kuykendahl area, a 22 year old trying to break into a place isn't just a dumb kid.
quote:It'll never make it to a jury. Hell, it won't even go to court in Harris County.
These are questions the jury will go through.
I know a lot of those deputies and folks in the DA's office...they actually prefer them dead over wounded any day.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 1:52 am to mylsuhat
Love it when this happens. Woohoo
Posted on 12/28/12 at 2:22 am to JohnLSU
Breaking in to my house is one thing, but then yours going to disturb my slumber? Yeah you getting shot for sure.
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 2:23 am
Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:09 am to mylsuhat
We need hundreds of these instances and plaster them across the main stream media.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 7:04 am to JohnLSU
quote:well, let this be a message to others, dont break into someone's house
The guy is 22 years old with a license, young kids tends to do stupid shite..
quote:only in the movies does anyone ever shoot to wound
Why in the head? Why not on the shoulders or legs or some placement less life threatening and take his arse to jail?
quote:let's hope so
Or did he not warned the burglar and took the shoot and asked questions later approach.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 7:30 am to JohnLSU
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Man, I don't know, yeah the guy entered his home and refused to exit.. So he say. The guy is 22 years old with a license, young kids tends to do stupid shite.. Could he have been itching to shoot the first person he got a chance to. Why in the head? Why not on the shoulders or legs or some placement less life threatening and take his arse to jail? Was the burglar armed? Could he have been lying about the guy refusing to leave. If you got caught doing something and you been warned to leave common sense would tell you to back up and go not continue to enter the guys home. Or did he not warned the burglar and took the shoot and asked questions later approach.. These are questions the jury will go through.
There is a lot of fail in this post.
If someone breaks into my house, my first few shots will be for their head. A criminal can't break into anything else without his head. If he is zigging and zagging through the house, I will aim for his torso. Once he is on the floor, I will give the last shot to his shot at point blank range to insure he can't testify against me shooting him in my own fricking house.
I also don't care if he is armed or not. Once he enters my house, all bets are off. He fricked up by entering and this would be his last frick up he ever makes.
I have never heard of a burglar warning a homeowner that he is going to break in and take whatever he wants. Therefore, he forefits his supposed rights to being warned that his head is about to leave his shoulders.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:22 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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frick that. If someone breaks into my house their arse is heading to the morgue. Ask question? Are you shitting me? Hey man. What are you doing in my house? Why did you break my window? Please leave. No. Bang bang bitch
There is a bounty of case law in Louisiana and across the country stating that you, as the homeowner, have an obligation to warn the intruder before shooting in self-defense.
If you do not, you will not only certainly risk civil liability, but criminal prosecution is a real possibility.
Also, cheering for the death of another person based on an incident which you really know nothing about (other than a short newspaper clipping) is sad.
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 8:26 am
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:26 am to stewie
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There is a bounty of case law in Louisiana and other across the country stating that you, as the homeowner, have an obligation to warn the intruder before shooting in self-defense.
And that is exactly why you shoot to kill. Then he cant say you didnt warn him.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:27 am to stewie
quote:Thats why you shoot to kill. Its your word vs theirs.
There is a bounty of case law in Louisiana and across the country stating that you, as the homeowner, have an obligation to warn the intruder before shooting in self-defense.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:33 am to Langston
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And that is exactly why you shoot to kill. Then he cant say you didnt warn him.
Exactly.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:35 am to stewie
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Also, cheering for the death of another person based on an incident which you really know nothing about (other than a short newspaper clipping) is sad.
If the deceased was unlawfully in the shooter's house and is now dead a a result, you are damn right I will cheer for it. Every single time. frick these thugs.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:38 am to El Josey Wales
Every situation is different, you need to take the actions necessary to protect yourself.
Just giving a friendly warning.
Would you be willing to lie in front of a grand jury and judge if you didn't warn him?
Just giving a friendly warning.
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And that is exactly why you shoot to kill. Then he cant say you didnt warn him.
Would you be willing to lie in front of a grand jury and judge if you didn't warn him?
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:38 am to stewie
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stewie
Sheeze... Did you not learn your lesson the first time you tried to play devil's advocate?
Did you even read the screencap?
The homeowner DID warn the intruder. It's dark and there's no power in the home due to a fire in the complex earlier on. Homeowner decided to stay there anyway to protect his property from burglary. Turns out his hunch was correct. Someone broke in. Remember, it's dark and no lights? If it's me, I'm slinging lead in the vicinity of wherever he's breaking in from. If a bullet happens to strike the intruder in the head, then so be it. That's the chance HE took.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:43 am to stewie
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Would you be willing to lie in front of a grand jury and judge if you didn't warn him?
If him being in my house in the middle of the night, startling me from a deep slumber, I inadvertently forget to yell freeze, yes I may bend the truth in that instance. I'm not ruining my life for some piece of shite in my house. I'm not trying to kill folks, but if they are already inside my house, chances are there won't be much time for small talk.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:44 am to cdaniel76
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Did you even read the screencap? The homeowner DID warn the intruder. It's dark and there's no power in the home due to a fire in the complex earlier on. Homeowner decided to stay there anyway to protect his property from burglary. Turns out his hunch was correct. Someone broke in. Remember, it's dark and no lights? If it's me, I'm slinging lead in the vicinity of wherever he's breaking in from. If a bullet happens to strike the intruder in the head, then so be it. That's the chance HE took
Yes, I did read it. I wasn't responding to what the homeowner did in this instance.
There were people in this thread saying that they would just blast away, without warning.
I said, hey...becareful, you can be a victim in hot water under the law.
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 8:45 am
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:51 am to stewie
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There were people in this thread saying that they would just blast away, without warning.
I said, hey...becareful, you can be a victim in hot water under the law.
I can see your viewpoint, but remember this is an anonymous(for the most part) forum. Of course all these macho dudes are going to say that. However, none of them, unless they've experienced this situation (Like Coastie) can tell you what they would actually do if they should experience this.
Adrenaline will be rushing. You mind will be foggy. You will be scared of the unknown also. You'll be questioning "Is he armed too?", but all of this will be happening so quickly that who's to say what you'll remember to say or ask. The main issue here is DID YOU FEEL YOUR LIFE, OR THE LIFE OF SOMEONE ELSE, WAS THREATENED?
Logic and common sense says that in all likelihood the answer to that question will be YES and you'll be shooting to save a life in self defense.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:54 am to stewie
I'm sure if the thug criminal that was breaking in happen to live, he'd say "judge, the man did give me a warning and I ignored it". Dude, get a clue!
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:57 am to El Josey Wales
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If him being in my house in the middle of the night, startling me from a deep slumber, I inadvertently forget to yell freeze, yes I may bend the truth in that instance. I'm not ruining my life for some piece of shite in my house. I'm not trying to kill folks, but if they are already inside my house, chances are there won't be much time for small talk.
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