re: Ok Hog fans...Why not Charlie Strong?

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Agreed.

Some programs are so well funded and have such a strong history/tradition that they are not desperate enough to reach out to a black coach. Hiring a black coach just isn't a huge priority. The advancement of black coaches is usually just a top priority among those that are black.

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This is complete horse shite. The way I see it, no coach should be hired or not because of the color of their skin (or their spouse's skin). Skin color shouldn't be celebrated just as much as it shouldn't be abhorred. To suggest that only desperate schools hire black coaches is ignorant at best.

The problem is that most of the good black coaches stay in the NFL where the Rooney rule gives them a much better shot at a good job. There really isn't much of a track record for black head coaches at big name college programs outside of Willingham at Notre Dame.

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This is complete horse shite. The way I see it, no coach should be hired or not because of the color of their skin (or their spouse's skin). Skin color shouldn't be celebrated just as much as it shouldn't be abhorred. To suggest that only desperate schools hire black coaches is ignorant at best.

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probably the best reply to a fool I've ever seen here.

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I'm not concerned with your notions of politically correct society.

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It's not about political correctness, It's about winning. Charlie Strong just put Louisville in a BCS bowl in his 3rd season by rebuilding the complete dumpster fire that was Louisville after Kragthorpe left. He's a great recruiter and proven he can recruit outside of the state, which clearly is a must for Tennessee, to a lesser location in Louisville. The color of his skin should mean zero in the equation.

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If Mack Brown steps down or resigns at Texas, do you think there is a big push among the white boosters and power players to hire a black coach?

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Today, if you told the powers in Austin that they could let Mack step down and poach Kevin Sumlin, do you think they would jump at that chance? I sure as hell do.. and it's not because he's black.

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It's not about political correctness,

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Yeah, it is, when you give a speech about being colorblind

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He's a great recruiter and proven he can recruit outside of the state, which clearly is a must for Tennessee, to a lesser location in Louisville. The color of his skin should mean zero in the equation.

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You're preaching to the choir. I have no influence or control on UT's staffing decisions

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Today, if you told the powers in Austin that they could let Mack step down and poach Kevin Sumlin, do you think they would jump at that chance? I sure as hell do.. and it's not because he's black.

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I have no reason to believe that any movers and shakers who would influence the UT coaching hirings and firings are concerned with hiring a black coach

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Yeah, it is, when you give a speech about being colorblind

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I said winning should matter more than skin color. That's not being politically correct, it's being smart. I'm sorry you can't grasp that concept.

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I have no reason to believe that any movers and shakers who would influence the UT coaching hirings and firings are concerned with hiring a black coach

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Again, of course they're not "concerned with hiring a black coach", they want to hire a coach who wins. Kevin Sumlin is currently flipping the script on the state of Texas in the same manner Mack Brown did when he arrived in Austin. Those movers and shakers are very scared and would jump at the chance to end that momentum by cutting the head off the snake and hiring Sumlin.

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said winning should matter more than skin color

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And I agree with you, but I don't need a speech about politically correct society

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I'm sorry you can't grasp that concept.

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I think it's safe to say that you took what I said earlier the wrong way

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Again, of course they're not "concerned with hiring a black coach", they want to hire a coach who wins

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And so does Bama folks, in general, but when it came time to hire a former Bama center who played for the Bear and had both college and pro experience who happened to be black, they passed him over for a younger white guy for less experience.

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Those movers and shakers are very scared and would jump at the chance to end that momentum by cutting the head off the snake and hiring Sumlin.

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I'd have to see it to believe it

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, I clearly understand that you are saying they won't hire him because he's black.

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Is that an outrage to you? They had an opportunity to hire him when Kiffin took the job. I don't care if Kiffin officially had a year and a half of NFL head coaching experience, he was not more cut out to run that program than Strong who was about 17 or so years older than him and had been a part of a program that had won 2 BCS national titles.

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I don't care if Kiffin officially had a year and a half of NFL head coaching experience, he was not more cut out to run that program than Strong who was about 17 or so years older than him and had been a part of a program that had won 2 BCS national titles.

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Strong had no HC experience. I think what you're finding now is that big name teams are very hesitant to hire assistants. They would prefer coaches that have built a resume as a head coach (see Kirby Smart).