re: Per 680thefan yesterday, Miles only over-rules the really "F'd up" play calls...

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In 2004, Bowling Green was second in the nation in total offense (506.3 yards per game) and fourth in scoring (44.3 points per game), and scored at least 50 points in four games. The Falcons passing attack (338.3 yards per game) ranked third nationally and they capped a 9-3 season with a 52-35 victory against Memphis in the GMAC Bowl.

The next year, Bowling Green ranked second in the Mid American Conference in passing (283.9) and scoring (33.8). In 2003, Bowling Green broke 10 school records and went 11-3 with a Motor City Bowl victory against Northwestern.

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This was with stud as OC. He was o line coach under Meyer and when Meyer left he took over as OC from 2003-2006.

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the play-calling is Coach Stud's show all the way.

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for the last 5 years?

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Meyer OC is like Saban DC

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That is true but doesn't apply here. Meyer was gone when stud was a successful OC at bowling green

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Typically tard that thinks LSU should go 14-0 every single year and win the national championship every single year and have the number 1 recruiting class in the nation every year because we are LSU

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Actually what I see is how LSU beats Auburn 12-10. Teams like Auburn, Tenn (2 yrs ago), miss st (chad jones) ark .....teams that have a lot LES talent than LSU but manage to stay in the game. When you have more talent than the teams you play, you are suppose to win. It's win you get out coached that you allow les talented teams to play with you. LSU did not get a first down va Ga in the first half during the SEC champ game and Miles comment after the national champ game was "he didn't see it coming"! You are getting 4.5 million, and you didn't see it coming. Who is the "tard" now? Me for calling him on it or you who is accepting that for an answer!! Nuff Said

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This was with stud as OC. He was o line coach under Meyer and when Meyer left he took over as OC from 2003-2006.

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Thanks for the clarification. Looks like Stud was a fun n gun guy before he got to LSU...wonder what happened?

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Do you know how many coaches out there would take LSU and have the same or better win/loss record over the past several years?


Not many and LSU's history proves that not any coach could have that record. So does Alabama, Tennessee, and Georgia's history.

Mark Richt was considered by many a better coach than Les Miles' just a couple of years ago. Would you take his record over Miles'?

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Wow, were you serious with that question? Ok, I'll bite, TheBob: no, I don't. Do you? Who are they?

And for the sake of efficiency, let's leave guys like Andy Reid and Belichik off the list. They might do it, but I doubt they'll come.

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. LSU was never gonna win that game no matter what strategies CLM or the LSU staff and team chose.

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Can't disagree with you more and the fact that this issue can't be settled bc Miles did not make the appropriate adjustments is maddening.

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Can't disagree with you more and the fact that this issue can't be settled bc Miles did not make the appropriate adjustments is maddening.

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To the average fan, schemes and "adjustments" must seem like the magic formula and what dictates a win or a loss. Here's a news flash for you, blocking and tackling is what wins and loses football games.

Given the differences in the two teams emotional state, my contention is that there was nothing the coaching staff could have done to prevent that loss. Coaches coach, but its the players that line up and play and have to execute. Like I said earlier, a football game is all about blocking and tackling, and when the two teams are fairly equal physically, the motivated teams is the one who does it best.

I always here fans say some coaching staff made "adjustments" at halftime and thats what facilitated a victory, or that the "lack" of adjustments caused the loss.

Just for kicks I ask them to IDENTIFY the adjustment that was made or an adjustment that should have been made. Not surprisingly all I ever get is a blank look. Very few fans would recognize an adjustment to a scheme or even a simple alignment adjustment that might be made during a game.

So my point becomes, if you don't know what the hell an adjustment looks like, how do you know if one was made? Just because the team played better after half and you heard the announcer say the coaches made some "adjustments"?

What really happens the most is the coaches chew some arse and the players play the same damn scheme...the just play it BETTER!! They block better and tackle better and throw and catch it better. It's called E-X-E-C-U-T-I-O-N!

All this is to say, Alabama didn't beat LSU on 1/9 because they had a better scheme or a better game plan, which they may well have had. The main reason they won is because Bama was super motivated because of their earlier loss and they had something to prove. They arrived in NO as one pissed off, focused, chip on their shoulder football team.

Contrast that with LSU's mental state..."geez we already beat Alabama, how come we have to do it again"? "How come we don't get to beat up on some other non-conference patsy like every other SEC team that ever got to the NCG"?

Was that the right mindset for a player to have when playing in the BCSNCG? No. Could the coaches have done a better job getting the players in the right mindset? Perhaps.

My contention is that in any game between two teams who are fairly equally matched physically, the more motivated team will always win because they block and tackle better than the other team. Thats because blocking and tackling are mostly about effort, and the team with something to prove to the world always puts forth more effort.

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I'm struggling to understand how you could believe this is true. If truly "everything he does after the ball is teed up negates" winning the games, how could he have the record he has? When you want to criticize him logically, you have to START with his record, and then from there try to figure out how he accomplished it. If you truly understand football, then you know a coach can't have a great long term record with smoke and mirrors. He has to be doing something right to be a winner. Too many try to minimize how hard it is to win this many football games in the SEC WEST! Miles didn't build his gaudy record in the mountain west conference, he built it in the hardest damn place to do it in America. So your job,should be not to focus on what he is bad at....you should be trying hard to understand what he is special at, and make no mistake about it, he is special. If all you can give me is that.... "he is a great recruiter" or "he lets his coordinators do all the coaching" or "anyone could do this well at a special school like LSU" or my personal favorite " Saban set up LSU so good that it is on autopilot and a drunk monkey could win here" or some variation of "Saban did it"....then we can't have a rational argument because you are starting from a place of ignorance. Until you can identify where his true genius lies, then your football acumen needs to increase until you understand. THEN and only then, you may be able to make some informed critiques of CLM and his staff. We all see things we don't like in the course of the games and the season. But knee jerk, uniformed criticism, is always wrong. If you disagree with a call or a strategy that you see in a game, you should start by trying to figure out why men who are long term professional football coaches would make those choices and what reasonable factors could have led them to do it. I know our fan base was hurt and embarassed by the NCG, but that game was played under a VERY unique set of conditions. LSU was never gonna win that game no matter what strategies CLM or the LSU staff and team chose. Sometimes thats the way it is in sports. Sometimes the teams are in two very different places mentally, and no amount of strategy can overcome it. Our fans however, have a hangover and inferiority complex from that game that will not be overcome until we beat Bama again. I say shame on you all for being the type of fans that panic at the first little thing that even hints at trouble.

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thank you lsuexpert57
i just wanted to copy and bookmark this. it should be your byline.