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So, injuries closing the talent gap = LSU in trouble?
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:10 pm
look i already basically knew this team was in trouble after the auburn-towson B2B weeks
losing faulk just basically blew the mind of our coaching staff. they cannot work out adjustments to aid the left side of the OL
miles/stud limit our offense and basically ignore passing in the middle 2/3 and say "we're going to out talent you and run it over you or we're going to lose"
we are who we are
losing faulk just basically blew the mind of our coaching staff. they cannot work out adjustments to aid the left side of the OL
miles/stud limit our offense and basically ignore passing in the middle 2/3 and say "we're going to out talent you and run it over you or we're going to lose"
we are who we are
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Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:what are those?
adjustments
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:12 pm to The Egg
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what are those?
well we did move hurst to LT and are trying to use TEs to help. they are just a mess on that side in terms of communication
defenses know to overload the left and especially send random CB blitzes b/c we will leave them uncovered a few times and mett will get killed on those instances
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
So you think the answer to oline injuries is to expose a Quarterback who we know has awareness issues by keeping him the pocket longer?
You realize this "formula" is the same one Saban uses? The same formula Muschamp was using? It is without question the most proven and successful formula that exists in football.
You realize this "formula" is the same one Saban uses? The same formula Muschamp was using? It is without question the most proven and successful formula that exists in football.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yep. I'm over it. We lost. We had a great season last year minus Jan. 9 and were lucky to avoid injuries.I live and breathe LSU football, but I'm not gonna let it ruin my week like some people. I just wish our coaches would make the adjustments needed. Anyways, I heard they had the lightest practice last week thus far this season.
This post was edited on 10/7/12 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
Stud thinks a seven step drop gives Mett more protection.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
i guess i should have said...what are 2nd half adjustments?
other staffs make them, ours hasn't made a single one yet this season.
other staffs make them, ours hasn't made a single one yet this season.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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adjustments
You can do this?
I also heard something about creating mismatches and exploiting weaknesses but I think that's just crazy talk.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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miles/stud limit our offense and basically ignore passing in the middle 2/3 and say "we're going to out talent you and run it over you or we're going to lose"
This is the point I was trying to make in THIS thread.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
The reason our offense looks good for a drive or two start the game is that they use the entire week to plan those initial drives. After that, if the team adjusts to counteract that plan, then the gameplan doesn't adjust. They just ride the defense praying they'll hold up.
That's all on Les and Studs.
That's all on Les and Studs.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:15 pm to GABlueDog
quote:i mean, no defense that we play has a glaring weakness, obviously.
creating mismatches and exploiting weaknesses
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So, injuries closing the talent gap = LSU in trouble?
Our depth was supposed to be what separated us from USC when some ranked them ahead of us in the polls. A mile wide and an inch deep I heard everyone saying in reference to USC. Who'd of thought that would be us too.
Faulk is a great O-lineman, no doubt, but I agree Slo we need to adjust, not keep doing the same things we did when he was in there while we wait for his replacement to get as good as he was.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So you think the answer to oline injuries is to expose a Quarterback who we know has awareness issues by keeping him the pocket longer?
que?
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You realize this "formula" is the same one Saban uses?
saban throws over the middle
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The same formula Muschamp was using?
he throws it over the middle, too
quote:
It is without question the most proven and successful formula that exists in football.
to be fair, bama is an outlier since 2004
offensive styles since 2003
2004: pro style offense with lots of passing
2005: spread option
2006: spread option
2007: pro style offense with lots of passing
2008: spread option
2009: bama
2010: spread option
2011: bama
so outside of bama, it hasn't been THAT common lately
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:18 pm to The Egg
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what are 2nd half adjustments?
other staffs make them, ours hasn't made a single one yet this season.
we will win running the ball up the gut and throwing to the sidelines or we will lose. adjustments aren't in the gameplan
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:19 pm to GangnamStyle
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The reason our offense looks good for a drive or two start the game is that they use the entire week to plan those initial drives. After that, if the team adjusts to counteract that plan, then the gameplan doesn't adjust.
fwiw, i couldn't believe we threw it over the middle twice on that opening drive
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
So you think the answer to oline injuries is to expose a Quarterback who we know has awareness issues by keeping him the pocket longer?
You realize this "formula" is the same one Saban uses? The same formula Muschamp was using? It is without question the most proven and successful formula that exists in football.
Muschamp hasn't exactly built a monster program yet. Last year was pretty bad for him and this year we are the only good win on his record and we are over-rated. And even then they utilized more creativity in the run game than we do, with the unbalanced lines and misdirection.
Saban certainly changed things up in the NCG last year by opening up the passing game a lot more after the run game got stuffed so much in the first game. And, surprise, surprise, once we had to respect them in the passing game they started breaking off big runs too.
The problem isn't that a run heavy offense is bad, it's being unwilling to do anything other than call the same 10 or so plays over and over. When the same thing isn't working you've got to open up the playbook.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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losing faulk just basically blew the mind of our coaching staff. they cannot work out adjustments to aid the left side of the OL
I thought the pass protection was solid against UF. Getting Josh D out of there has helped a lot.
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miles/stud limit our offense and basically ignore passing in the middle 2/3 and say "we're going to out talent you and run it over you or we're going to lose"
The other problem is that we rarely throw to the FB or TE. Defenses have keyed on this and don't even really cover them anymore. Just about every pass to a TE or FB this year has been completed with no defender that close.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:21 pm to The Egg
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i mean, no defense that we play has a glaring weakness, obviously.
Exactly. All the teams we are going to play are just that much better than us. That and the fact that we have untalented players with bad attitudes that can't properly execute Les' game plan.
I think I covered all the pumpers' talking points.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 10:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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fwiw, i couldn't believe we threw it over the middle twice on that opening drive
Neither could I. We actually used the TEs and exploited an opening that we had created for ourselves with stale play calling all year. Then when UF adjusted we didn't and boom, offense gets shut down.
The funny thing is Les' e-knights think criticizing the playcalling means some people want an air-raid offense that chunks it up like the Saints do.
You win games by keeping the other team off-balance, and that's the point. OL blocking was not that bad in the passing game yesterday, but the play calls were. Especially running a pass out to the FB 3 times.
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