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re: AL Cy young award David Price or Justin Verlander?

Posted on 10/3/12 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
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Posted on 10/3/12 at 10:10 am to
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Its not close in any objective way

Other than the objective measures I posted: ERA, RA, K/9, BB/9, HR/9, and BB/K ratio. So it's close in every objective way, honestly.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 10/3/12 at 10:15 am to
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Other than the objective measures I posted: ERA, RA, K/9, BB/9, HR/9, and BB/K ratio. So it's close in every objective way, honestly.


Verlander has a better WHIP, 27 more innings, doing it in a tougher ballpark and an all time crap defense. Its not close.
This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 10:16 am
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
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Posted on 10/3/12 at 10:21 am to
BTW - Defensive Efficiency rates how often a defense turns a batted ball in play (not a home run) into an out.

TB: 72.2%
DET: 69.2%

But let's actually do the math when their pitching. Verlander had 476 non-K outs. He let up 173 non-HR hits. that means 476/(476+173) = 73.3%. His defense converted 73.3% of balls in play into outs.

Price? Glad you asked. 428 non-K outs and 157 non-HR hits allowed. That's 428/((428+157) = 73.1%. His defense actually converted LESS balls in play into outs.

I actually wasn't expecting that result. I though Price would have a marginal yet insignificant advantage. Instead, the defense argument cuts against Verlander. His defense played better than Price's. Wow. Didn't see that coming.
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