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re: Jeep "death wobble"- I think I've got it. UPDATE pg 2

Posted on 7/18/12 at 11:17 am to
Posted by Hog Zealot
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 11:17 am to
I have an issue I discovered on my Jeep as well. Sorry for derail in advance but did not want to start another thread.

98' Wrangler leaking coolant out the top of the radiator when running. Not sure why but the makers cut costs and placed plastic tabs and a top for a high temp area on the radiator. The metal lower part is fine, it is just at this plastic seal.

My question is do I need to up and buy an all metal radiator or is this something that a repair shop can fix without fully replacing? Hopefully some of your pros can understand my jibberish when it comes to explaining vehicle problems

TIA and sorry for derail.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Check ball joints


This is a big cause, your ball joints can wear down quickly with big tires

Also make sure your track bar is tight as frick, Check tie rod ends as well
Posted by PapaPogey
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Member since Apr 2008
39625 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 11:17 am to
I'm at the shop, so I'm about to see what kinda bullshite this guy is gonna feed me.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 11:30 am to
quote:

98' Wrangler leaking coolant out the top of the radiator when running. Not sure why but the makers cut costs and placed plastic tabs and a top for a high temp area on the radiator. The metal lower part is fine, it is just at this plastic seal.

My question is do I need to up and buy an all metal radiator or is this something that a repair shop can fix without fully replacing?


I went through this too... You gotta replace the whole thing. Cheapest way is to get a used one from a wrecked jeep and see how long it last, or you can get a new aftermarket that has no plastic and cost a good bit more.
Posted by Hog Zealot
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Member since Mar 2012
1630 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 11:36 am to
Well Shiite muslim. Thanks for the heads up. Guess there goes most of the money I was saving for that new 9mm. Going to the junkyard this afternoon to see what they have in stock. More than likely I will pay the extra for an all metal model so I don't have to deal with this again during the zombie apocalypse.
Posted by Huntorez
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 11:51 am to
I drive a 05' F250 with the coil front suspension like the Jeeps and mine does the same thing. Scares the shite out of me everytime. I have heard only thing that fixes it is put new, prolly more expensive/better, shocks on it along with the steering stabilizer. Ford has always said it was because the two front tires didnt have the right air pressue which is bull.

Plan on replacing all the shocks soon and hopefully it fixes it. good luck
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 11:53 am to
one other way to eliminate this problem is increased toe in. Both wheels would be forced towards the center of the vehicle eliminating any sort of steering shudder.
Posted by tehmidget
Prairieville, LA
Member since May 2004
1243 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 11:58 am to
Don't buy a junkyard jeep radiator. They clog up if they sit dry too long. Go to radiatorbarn .com and get a new one. It's an easy fix.

If your at a shop to fix death wobble. Prepare your anus.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39625 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 12:11 pm to
Thanks for the link. I bought my lift from those guys and have talked with them many times on the phone about various issues. It almost makes me throw up thinking about all the stuff that could be wrong.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 12:16 pm to
F O R D
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39625 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 12:22 pm to
Thanks dude. I K N O W

I don't have the money to sell my whip for a whopping 6K and buy anything better.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 12:24 pm to
I know I just like commenting ford in auto threads

My brother just got a loaded 06 4x4 ford escape. Bitch is nice.
Posted by guesswho
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 12:31 pm to
this isnt just a jeep issue. It is vehicles with straight axle front ends. I drive a f-250 so I know your fear
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39625 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 12:35 pm to
Yeah you're right. I'd feel a whole lot safer if I was having this problem in a big arse truck. On a positive note, straight axle>>>>>IFS for offroading.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:00 pm to
I had it on my F250 really bad. I replaced all joints on the front end one at a time until I had replaced them all. Tie rods, track bar, drag link, upper and lower BJs. After that, I got a new steering stabilizer and it took care of it.

Main causes of bad death wobble are worn joints, and more importantly bad steering design. Ford has the latter, and I had both.

Mine was like the 7.3 F250 on YouTube
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39625 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:07 pm to
Just watched that video. Mine is only at low speeds, so hopefully the shop calls me back soon with some good info.
Posted by laangler21
On the lake.
Member since May 2012
3034 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:39 pm to
Check the roaters, bearings, and make sure your tires are still balanced.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39625 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 2:12 pm to
So the guy called and told me that what I'm feeling is being caused by warped front rotors on my jeep. Said everything else looks good after a balance and rotation. Does that sound right to anyone?
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 2:15 pm to
needs new shocks
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