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re: Semi Auto pistol: Safety or No Safety
Posted on 6/26/12 at 12:38 pm to AlxTgr
Posted on 6/26/12 at 12:38 pm to AlxTgr
Gekko,
From my personal experience, the XD is a fine self defense gun. I don't have any personal experience with the other two, although I've read favorable reports of both on the internet. I think your question is referring to an external safety lever as all self defense guns have safeties of some sort, even if they don't have an external safety lever. Re: the issue of external safety levers, my personal thoughts are:
Single action only guns, e.g. the 1911, should have an external safety lever as these guns typically have a lighter trigger pull (3-5#).
Striker type actions, e.g. Glock, don't necessarily need an external safety lever, as long as the shooter has adequate training and the trigger has not been modified for a trigger pull that is lighter than factory specs.
Double action only guns, e.g. Kel-Tec PF9 or the entire Kahr series, don't need an external safety lever.
DA/SA guns, e.g Beretta M92, get complicated w/ addtion of decocker levers and different combinations of the status of the action
The main thing is for the shooter to have a comfort level and adequate training for whatever pistol they choose for self defense. And yes, the most important safety feature on any gun is the one between your ears.
From my personal experience, the XD is a fine self defense gun. I don't have any personal experience with the other two, although I've read favorable reports of both on the internet. I think your question is referring to an external safety lever as all self defense guns have safeties of some sort, even if they don't have an external safety lever. Re: the issue of external safety levers, my personal thoughts are:
Single action only guns, e.g. the 1911, should have an external safety lever as these guns typically have a lighter trigger pull (3-5#).
Striker type actions, e.g. Glock, don't necessarily need an external safety lever, as long as the shooter has adequate training and the trigger has not been modified for a trigger pull that is lighter than factory specs.
Double action only guns, e.g. Kel-Tec PF9 or the entire Kahr series, don't need an external safety lever.
DA/SA guns, e.g Beretta M92, get complicated w/ addtion of decocker levers and different combinations of the status of the action
The main thing is for the shooter to have a comfort level and adequate training for whatever pistol they choose for self defense. And yes, the most important safety feature on any gun is the one between your ears.
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 12:42 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
Very solid advice... 
I think all three are great guns so it basically comes down to the safety feature for me.
I like the way the beretta feels in my hand better than the S&W, but I haven't held the XD in quite some time. I need to go and try to rent one at the range.
I think all three are great guns so it basically comes down to the safety feature for me.
I like the way the beretta feels in my hand better than the S&W, but I haven't held the XD in quite some time. I need to go and try to rent one at the range.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 12:42 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
All safeties are external. If it's internal, it's not a safety. It's a lawsuit/massive award prevention device.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:14 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
quote:
Gekko,
From my personal experience, the XD is a fine self defense gun. I don't have any personal experience with the other two, although I've read favorable reports of both on the internet. I think your question is referring to an external safety lever as all self defense guns have safeties of some sort, even if they don't have an external safety lever. Re: the issue of external safety levers, my personal thoughts are:
Single action only guns, e.g. the 1911, should have an external safety lever as these guns typically have a lighter trigger pull (3-5#).
Striker type actions, e.g. Glock, don't necessarily need an external safety lever, as long as the shooter has adequate training and the trigger has not been modified for a trigger pull that is lighter than factory specs.
Double action only guns, e.g. Kel-Tec PF9 or the entire Kahr series, don't need an external safety lever.
DA/SA guns, e.g Beretta M92, get complicated w/ addtion of decocker levers and different combinations of the status of the action
The main thing is for the shooter to have a comfort level and adequate training for whatever pistol they choose for self defense. And yes, the most important safety feature on any gun is the one between your ears.
Pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Also, most modern firearms have "drop safeties," so that if they are dropped, they don't immediately go off.
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