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Posted on 6/12/12 at 9:32 am
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7446 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 9:32 am
Have a friend that wants to start building soon. What are some important steps and procedures he needs to make sure he follows when building? He plans on self-contracting. What is he looking at saving $$$ wise by self-contracting? He also plans on doing all the wiring/flooring/painting. Told him he would be building for a while if he planned on doing all that himself it seems but he is a skilled handyman so maybe he can pull it off
Posted by BigErn
Member since Mar 2007
3284 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 9:37 am to
I want to start building soon. What are some important steps and procedures I need to make sure to follow when building? I plan on self-contracting. What am I looking at saving $$$ wise by self-contracting? I also plan on doing all the wiring/flooring/painting. I am scared shitless I will be building for a while if I plan on doing all that myself. I believe I am a skilled handyman since i put a fan up by myself one time, but I am worried I am in over my head.
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7446 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 9:40 am to
quote:

I want to start building soon. What are some important steps and procedures I need to make sure to follow when building? I plan on self-contracting. What am I looking at saving $$$ wise by self-contracting? I also plan on doing all the wiring/flooring/painting. I am scared shitless I will be building for a while if I plan on doing all that myself. I believe I am a skilled handyman since i put a fan up by myself one time, but I am worried I am in over my head.


not quite but good try.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 9:40 am to
I've seen a lot of people save a lot of money doing it. However, most houses showed how much of a "skilled handyman" the owner was.

I'm not sure if he can legally wire his house for electricity, unless he's a licensed electrician, but even if he can, I would certainly not advise it. Cable, internet, security, phone, etc. are all good, but no way should he do electricity.

Painting is a good way to save money, as is flooring, if it's simple flooring.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22515 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 9:47 am to
I'm paying my builder $45k to build my house. Don't know what you will be saving by doing all the painting and electric yourself, but I'd imagine it's a good chunk. Good luck.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 9:51 am to
quote:

I'm not sure if he can legally wire his house for electricity, unless he's a licensed electrician, but even if he can, I would certainly not advise it. Cable, internet, security, phone, etc. are all good, but no way should he do electricity.


He would probably need to check this out with the local inspector. In many states you're allowed to do your own electrical work, but getting through inspection might be a problem.

As far as the OP, the biggest issue is managing sub-contractors and the whole permitting/inspection process. Home construction subs can be a nightmare to deal with. He needs to make sure to have clear agreements that lay out milestones, payment process, scheduling, etc. He also needs to understand that they may screw something up and refuse to pay for it, may disappear, may show up wasted, etc.

Also, doing stuff yourself can save money, but if you're doing a construction loan you have to think about time and interest as well. (I guess there's still such a thing as a personal construction loan)
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22515 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 9:56 am to
It took me about a week to realize I definitely made the right decision by paying someone else to build my house. I simply don't have the time to be out there as much as I would need be to ensure the job got done.
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7446 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 10:03 am to
If it was up to me I would not self-contract it, but he thinks he can save big $ by doing it himself.
As far as the electrical goes, that was the first thing I asked him and he said he has a relative that has a residential contracting license? so he will just sign off on the electrical work. Not sure if that is a smart idea but its his house to burn down
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7446 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 10:04 am to
quote:

I'm paying my builder $45k to build my house. Don't know what you will be saving by doing all the painting and electric yourself, but I'd imagine it's a good chunk. Good luck.


What kind of house are you building? You must be doing alot of work yourself eh?
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22515 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 10:23 am to
That is what I'm paying him to contract it all out. I'm not doing anything myself. I'm still having to pay for the actual labor and materials.
Posted by aaronb023
TeamBunt CEO
Member since Feb 2005
11774 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 10:35 am to
I was going to build my own but now paying 10k, which isn't bad. I won't have the sweat equity I wanted but it'll get done faster and probably better quality and probably save me from getting divorced in a few months.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8143 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 10:46 am to
Skipping the general contractor will save 8-12% in my experience.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22515 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 10:49 am to
That's pretty much correct. My time is worth more than 8-12% the cost of the build.
Posted by aaronb023
TeamBunt CEO
Member since Feb 2005
11774 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:10 pm to
My 10k is a little under 5% of cost, which I though was a pretty good deal.
Posted by Churchill
Member since Apr 2009
504 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:32 pm to
I built my house myself. Savings were about 25% of total. In Louisiana you can do whatever you want yourself as long as it passes code. I got a construction loan. You just have the bank put money into your construction account as needed to save on intrest. The most important things to follow are to not cut corners, do what the inspector tells you to do the first time, and measure twice, cut once.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22515 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:37 pm to
I don't know any builder that would build a house for less than 5%. He must either be a family friend or really be starving for work.
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 1:39 pm
Posted by WildBill8
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
156 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:39 pm to
aaronb023

Are you in BR? What builder are you using? I'm looking for a contractor right now...
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7446 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Savings were about 25% of total
Posted by jerkyboyz
underground
Member since Aug 2011
365 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 1:09 am to
I sub contracted my home and thought it was pretty simple, get good people and inspectors will make sure shiite is right. I saved 20k
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