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Charter Captain payment question
Posted on 4/30/12 at 7:55 am
Posted on 4/30/12 at 7:55 am
So a buddy of mine went out with a charter captain (not naming names) for an all day trout trip. At about 10:00 am, their boat runs up on a distressed boat an they end up having to tow the distressed boat in, ending the trip.
Charter Captain does not issue any refund at all or make an offer of another trip. Is this shitty or is this typical? Discuss.
Charter Captain does not issue any refund at all or make an offer of another trip. Is this shitty or is this typical? Discuss.
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 7:56 am to Motorboat
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shitty
Very Shitty!!
Posted on 4/30/12 at 7:59 am to Motorboat
I'd be pissed..
Did he confront the captain about it?
Did he confront the captain about it?
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:02 am to Motorboat
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(not naming names)
I think it is completely acceptable to name them.
If you ate a terrible restaurant, you would name it. What a shite captain and charter service. I would have demanded my money back.
Who in their right mind doesn't spring for the $100 annual TowUS insurance and- Why not???
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:05 am to Motorboat
Shitty and names should be out. Your helping him screw people if you dont.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:17 am to Langston
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Shitty and names should be out.
He is a casual acquaintance, so I'm not outing him. I do not think my friend confronted him as his father in law paid for the trip.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:28 am to Motorboat
Sounds shitty to me. The captain should have been able to go back out after the boat was towed in. It doesn't take all day to tow someone in.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:36 am to Motorboat
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(not naming names)
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:43 am to Motorboat
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He is a casual acquaintance, so I'm not outing him. I do not think my friend confronted him as his father in law paid for the trip.
Why even bring it up then. If you know about it and someone else gets took, thats kinda shitty.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:59 am to Motorboat
The distressed boat should have offered the refund or offered up a trip themselves (once it was fixed).
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:00 am to Langston
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Why even bring it up then.
Because I am on the fence about whether it is shitty or whether it just gets chalked up to circumstance. If I took my own boat out and had to end the trip early to help someone out, I don't recover my expenses. Helping someone out is part of the deal when you're out there.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:00 am to Langston
this has happend to me a couple of times....once, w/ the crew that used to be cedar edge lodge (the constance brothers tim/paul, etc). Seems like they merged w/black bayou or something, then unmerged. Whatever.
Anyway, on the way BACK IN, we had to tow someone in, and the guide (Gary Pelloquin (sp)) apologized over and over for having to go so slow in August on the way back. Was freakin hot. We fished with them alot, and Tim told me next time we came down, he'd do "something" to make up for the long ride in. We never asked him to, but I'm sure he would have had we asked.
Then, once w/Dudley, we spent about an hour or so on the way out one morning looking for one of Chaz's bait boats. We never found him (he turned up later just fine). Dudley offered to fish us longer if we wanted, but we had plenty of fish and were ready to go by his usual quitting time anyway.
Based on my experience, the guide should have done "something" other than "hope you enjoyed the boat ride".
PS - I think it's some kind of maritime law (not to mention morally the right thing to do) as far as being charged with having to tow people in. You don't just ignore that. Still, he should have offered something.
Anyway, on the way BACK IN, we had to tow someone in, and the guide (Gary Pelloquin (sp)) apologized over and over for having to go so slow in August on the way back. Was freakin hot. We fished with them alot, and Tim told me next time we came down, he'd do "something" to make up for the long ride in. We never asked him to, but I'm sure he would have had we asked.
Then, once w/Dudley, we spent about an hour or so on the way out one morning looking for one of Chaz's bait boats. We never found him (he turned up later just fine). Dudley offered to fish us longer if we wanted, but we had plenty of fish and were ready to go by his usual quitting time anyway.
Based on my experience, the guide should have done "something" other than "hope you enjoyed the boat ride".
PS - I think it's some kind of maritime law (not to mention morally the right thing to do) as far as being charged with having to tow people in. You don't just ignore that. Still, he should have offered something.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:03 am to Motorboat
You just need more info to know if it was shitty. We dont know if the one paying GAF or declined refund etc...
It could be from one extreme of getting completely ripped to nothing wrong with it at all depending on how the captain handled it.
After reading the OP I thought they got the shaft.
It could be from one extreme of getting completely ripped to nothing wrong with it at all depending on how the captain handled it.
After reading the OP I thought they got the shaft.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:06 am to Motorboat
That's really shitty
So once they got back to the dock they just called it a day and parted ways?
I would have been pissed!
So once they got back to the dock they just called it a day and parted ways?
I would have been pissed!
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:09 am to Motorboat
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Helping someone out is part of the deal when you're out there
Not really, if I'm in my personal boat and heading out but still in the round about area of the launch I'll probably stop and tow them in if I can, but unless its dire circumstances, they can wait for either me to finish my trip or somebody else.
And I would expect the same treatment from anybody else out there. Why should other people have their trips ruined bc my equipment failed?
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:14 am to Motorboat
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If I took my own boat out and had to end the trip early to help someone out, I don't recover my expenses
So... You're not a charter boat captain. The man was paid to take clients on a fishing trip, he owes them a fishing trip.
What time did they go out? Because if they were fishing for 4 hours before this happened I could understand (a little). But if they went out at 9, then this happened, another trip should be scheduled. At least at a discounted rate.
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Helping someone out is part of the deal when you're out there.
When you have paying customers in the boat and it's not life or death, I'm not so sure I agree with this.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:17 am to Motorboat
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Charter Captain does not issue any refund at all or make an offer of another trip. Is this shitty or is this typical? Discuss.
He only kept the deposit right?
This has been a reoccuring theme: charter captains run into issue 1/2/3/etc and a misunderstanding ensues between captain and customer because it wasn't agreed to verbally or in writing. Of course, charter fishing is a huge cash business, and typically there are no contracts to sign.
A buddy of mine and his guys went out and the captain of the ship turned back around after about an hour saying that the weather was going to be too bad...even though every other charter boat was still heading out. Not to mention the captain on the day before didn't have enough ice so they had to end their trip earley. So this was just a 'oh great' kind of situation. Well, they didn't put too much of a fight cause this captain was a dick apparently. The captain didn't refund their deposit for the day though saying that rain/inclement weather was just a part of it and there were no 'rain checks'. My buddy offered to pay for the gas that the guy incurred on the short trip back and forth. Needless to say, they argued back and forth constantly...my buddy threatened to out him on LAsportsman, contact the BBB, and then sue him purely out of principle. He got his deposit back.
There needs to be a uniform standard contract that all charter boat captains can agree on so that customers all understand the rules and what they are getting themseleves into.
This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 9:20 am
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:20 am to LNCHBOX
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The man was paid to take clients on a fishing trip, he owes them a fishing trip.
This.
I know its kind of shitty for the charter esp if he has an easily recognizable boat, its bad for business to blow by some people stuck with "Joe's Fishing Service" on the side. If I was said charter capt. I would've stopped and made sure they were OK, nothing life threatening, and let them know I was on a paid trip but would tow them in if they are still out there when I brought my customers back in.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:22 am to TigerTreyjpg
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I think it's some kind of maritime law (not to mention morally the right thing to do) as far as being charged with having to tow people in. You don't just ignore that. Still, he should have offered something.
I don't know about the legality of it, so I won't speak to it.
But you're right, it's morally the right thing to do. It's all situational though... I mean, if these guys were still in the main channel where other boats would 100% see them, I'd probably pass on them. If they were just in the middle of the gulf, then you're obligated to bring them in.
What is also being forgotten is that it is ALSO morally the right thing for the towee to reimburse the tower on his gas and maybe even his time. The charter captain shouldn't have incurred any 'loss' per se except for the potential fishing trip opportunity. So, in the end, the customer gets his deposit back, the captain comes out even, and everyone chalks it up to a 'a low probability event occuring and we did the right thing' and everyone moves on. Shake hands and schedule another trip. shite happens.
This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:24 am to Motorboat
I would be a check canceling fricker and the captain wouldn't see a dime.
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