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re: Lord of the Rings Trilogy: Disappointing

Posted on 4/21/12 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by CP3LSU25
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 3:08 pm to
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he came in here like this







Posted by TiVoTiger
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 3:18 pm to
The worst character in the movie had to be the macho dwarf. Jackson took stereotyping macho dwarf swordsmen to a whole new level. When he asked the other dumbfounded character to throw him (you know because he can fight off 3,000 orcs single-handedly), I was praying there was lava somewhere within chunking distance.
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 3:21 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/8/12 at 1:13 pm
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 3:23 pm to
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Why didn't Frodo just fly on one of those damn eagles that lifted him out of the volcano at the end of the movie at the beginning of the movie to drop the ring in the lava so I wouldn't have wasted nine hours of my life on this overly-dramatic and CGI-tastic "masterpiece"?


I know you're just trolling but there is a reason Frodo didn't just hop on an eagle and fly into Mordor.

1) Nazgul
2) Sauron would've spotted him pretty damned easily and then all would've been lost. The entire book hammers home this point. Sauron is the most powerful being in Middle-earth and Frodo had to sneak in so that they could get to Mt. Doom and destroy the ring before Sauron knows what is going on.
Posted by heatom2
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 3:28 pm to
I'll admit that I didn't watch LOTR at first because I thought it was going to be a nerdy D&D type movie.

But I was wrong. I know very few people who did not see the trilogy and even less that didn't like it. It's no more nerdy than Star Wars and if you have to be a nerd to like Star Wars then I guess just about everyone is a fricking nerd.
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 3:34 pm to
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Still, Sauron knew that Hobbits are somewhat resistant to its power. That's just a lame excuse to say why they wouldn't be guarding the Crack of Doom. Its not like he's got a shortage of trolls.


Well, Sauron did think that Aragorn had been given the ring after Aragorn used the palantir to show himself to Sauron. There would be no need to guard Mt. Doom any longer because he could keep his eye on Aragorn and know what was going on with it. More or less.

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And the ghost battle at the end bothered me.
I mean, nothing could hurt the ghosts besides that sword?
I dunno, it bothered me.

I'll be honest that bothered me as well however it was different in the book. The movie made them out to be these all powerful things whereas in the book they only participated by helping Aragorn defeat the Corsairs of Umbar before they reached Gondor.
This post was edited on 4/21/12 at 3:41 pm
Posted by TiVoTiger
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 3:44 pm to
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I know you're just trolling but


Nope. I don't do that. I was just stating my opinion that it was drawn out and overly-dramaticized, not to mention a CGI-lover's wet dream. Maybe my fault with it was that Jackson was too true to Tolkien and didn't use enough artistic license to make it more appealing & believable. Or it could be that I should've watched them in installments. By the end of the saga, my feeling for all the characters and the plot was IJDGAF.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 4:04 pm to
Has anyone called him out yet for so obviously ripping off "How it should have ended" like it was his own thought?
Posted by alajones
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34534 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 4:07 pm to
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more appealing
It was very appealing to the majority of America.

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believable
Umm...it's fantasy?

IDK why I responded, I see this thread is anchored. The admins don't like you either.
Posted by TiVoTiger
MS Gulf Coast
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 4:29 pm to
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Has anyone called him out yet for so obviously ripping off "How it should have ended" like it was his own thought?


Hate to break it to you bud, but it was in fact entirely my opinion. Haven't ever read any posts on LOTR.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 4:36 pm to
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Hate to break it to you bud
but I'm not buying it.
Posted by TiVoTiger
MS Gulf Coast
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 4:44 pm to
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but I'm not buying it.


I didn't know anything about it besides the books, but when I saw the eagles flying, the wheels were turning. If you don't believe me, just like LOTR, IDGAF. (Is it really a stretch that someone can come up with that on their own? I'll continue to believe that people really aren't that stupid.)
This post was edited on 4/21/12 at 4:50 pm
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 7:11 pm to
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quote:
Why didn't Frodo just fly on one of those damn eagles that lifted him out of the volcano at the end of the movie at the beginning of the movie to drop the ring in the lava so I wouldn't have wasted nine hours of my life on this overly-dramatic and CGI-tastic "masterpiece"?


I know you're just trolling but there is a reason Frodo didn't just hop on an eagle and fly into Mordor.

1) Nazgul
2) Sauron would've spotted him pretty damned easily and then all would've been lost. The entire book hammers home this point. Sauron is the most powerful being in Middle-earth and Frodo had to sneak in so that they could get to Mt. Doom and destroy the ring before Sauron knows what is going on.



Agree, sound reasoning within the context of the movie/books.
Posted by heehaw
Member since May 2009
4584 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:33 am to
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LOTR is based on World War II slapdick


Not only that, but also a lot of Western mytholoogy and religion. Specificaly Catholicism, as that was what Tolkien was.

Which is very important to remember.

The movie leaves out many of the little details that are in the book that really complete the entire story. Of course to REALLY understand everything you must read the Silmarallion, Lost Tales, Unfinished Tales, etc. Once you read those it makes the entire Hobbit/LOTR series better, imo.

But the entire "religion" aspect of Middle Earth is based off Cathocilism. The eagles, wizards, Boern, Tom Bombadil, etc are all basically what Saints or prophets would be in Catholicism. Sauron, Melkor, Balrogs, dragons, etc are what the Devil's servants are. As such, the eagles only really intervene in two cirumstances: when they have a chance to kill servants of the dark lord and evil creatures (orcs, wargs, etc). OR when "god" aka the Valar tells them to. Look at Christianity. According to it there is a God that created the world and is all powerful. Yet there is suffering, war, disease, starvation, etc. According to the Bible God "sends" saints, prophets, Jesus, etc in special circumstances. Its the same in Middle Earth. The eagles are just a direct servant of the Valar, a "lesser spirit". The wizards were sent by the Valar to help the Men of Middle Earth defeat Sauron. Even Sauron, and the dark lord before him Melkor, were the servants of the Middle Earth gods, until they rebelled. While they all had great powers, the Wizards, Eagles, etc were still just "taking orders" from the Valar. And like the Christian god, he/they basically sit back and watch and only send help in special circumstances. So Gandalf/Elrond/Frodo/Aragon couldnt have just asked them to fly the Ring right into Mordor.
Posted by fr33manator
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 6:55 am to
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Maybe you can guys can play some D&D afterwards.

Sounds like someone is jealous that other guys can get chicks to willfully role play with them, while he's stuck with paying hookers to call him Spiderman or spiking some chicks drink with GHB and dressing her up like smurfette in his motel room
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