- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Explain to me WTF "Not a Good Fit" means
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:19 pm to The Mick
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:19 pm to The Mick
quote:
quote: Truly recruit student athletes not one and done type players. This is tough to do in the sec and the south Are you serious with this bullshite? Do you really think any one-n-dones would come to LSU and play for TJ?
Very serious. I know it to be true. He didn't want the one and done type players. Look around... That's never been his style. He was brought in bc he is a highly ethical guy and lsu wanted a cleanly run program. Tj was too clean for the sec and south as far as recruiting goes. Not saying everyone else breaks the rules but Tj wouldnt operate in the grey area either. It cost us recruits. I admire him for it and wish recruiting wasn't so dirty.
1
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:38 pm to F1V3LSU
quote:
Don't really see why geography matters, just an excuse for a coach to not do his best I guess, if he isn't happy where he is. Kinda weak excuse.
I hope this was in jest. A west coast coach with no ties to the south will have a harder time recruiting the south than a coach whom has come up though the coaching ranks in the south.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:40 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Which is why a move to TCU makes sense in this case?
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:40 pm to Ziggy52
What does the food have to do with anything. Agree everything else.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 2:59 pm to Rickdaddy4188
It is too difficult to recruit to an area with shitty food obviously. This could never be overcome by having a winning basketball team.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:02 pm to tigereye58
LSU Hoops required a Dale Brown/PT Barnum yeoman's effort to sell the LSU fanbase to fill the PMAC. It took his covering the state in P&G nets and balls, recruiting globally, and six-plus years to build it up into a winner.
Bruce Pearl re-ignited the Vols fanbase, had Thompson-Boling filled for men's games, for practically the first time since Don Devoe, or the Ernie & Bernie Show eras.
Some schools need "right fits" besides just being a solid HC that can win and/or recruit a bit.
The LSU fanbase hasn't come close to fully embracing an LSU Mens Basketball HC since Brown, whom despite some detractors, was wildly popular.
Hiring a stoic west-coaster that spoke in a monotone baritone glum manner, that can't recruit locally, let alone well nationally, wasn't a "right fit", despite his high intelligence, solid X&O abilities, super high character values. Despite his delivering an outright SEC crown in a season that I consider probably the best LSU Mens Hoops coaching job of the last 20 yrs(despite objections by some here that anyone could've won with that team)..
Right Fit/Good Fit, yes it is an accurate term/phrase, and does apply to HCs, Schools, Leagues, Ath Depts, Budgets, Academia, Recruiting Grounds, Regions,etc..can be based upon a multitude and myriad of factors.
Life and sophistications are played out in shades of grey..the 10 Commandments are black and white.
Bruce Pearl re-ignited the Vols fanbase, had Thompson-Boling filled for men's games, for practically the first time since Don Devoe, or the Ernie & Bernie Show eras.
Some schools need "right fits" besides just being a solid HC that can win and/or recruit a bit.
The LSU fanbase hasn't come close to fully embracing an LSU Mens Basketball HC since Brown, whom despite some detractors, was wildly popular.
Hiring a stoic west-coaster that spoke in a monotone baritone glum manner, that can't recruit locally, let alone well nationally, wasn't a "right fit", despite his high intelligence, solid X&O abilities, super high character values. Despite his delivering an outright SEC crown in a season that I consider probably the best LSU Mens Hoops coaching job of the last 20 yrs(despite objections by some here that anyone could've won with that team)..
Right Fit/Good Fit, yes it is an accurate term/phrase, and does apply to HCs, Schools, Leagues, Ath Depts, Budgets, Academia, Recruiting Grounds, Regions,etc..can be based upon a multitude and myriad of factors.
Life and sophistications are played out in shades of grey..the 10 Commandments are black and white.
This post was edited on 4/8/12 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:52 pm to RonBurgundy
quote:
I will always admire Trent for how he approached his job. With the history of dirt the LSU program has had, IMO, he cleaned up the image. Did that cost him recruits and more importantly, connections in state? Absolutely. The losses and roster holes fall on him. He did it his way, for better or worse.
As a Basketball Coach, I cannot admire Trent Johnson. First, when he came to LSU, LSU did not have a history of "dirt." I am no John Brady apologist, but Brady did not run a dirty program. There was nothing to "clean" up. Second, even if he did recruit players who were academically "solid," I still measure a coach by what kind of job he does on the court. Even without measuring wins and loses, and he had two absolutely miserable seasons, if he even actually taught his players what to do on the court, I saw durn little of that on the court.
The bottom line was the product Trent Johnson put on the floor at LSU, and it was terrible.
He may be a "nice" guy, but he wasn't paid to be nice and lose, he was paid be nice and win.
If, as fans, we took the same attitude towards our football coaches, Saban would never have been hired.
This post was edited on 4/8/12 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 4/8/12 at 4:34 pm to mrbayoublu
Look at Rich Rodriguez
Great coach, did wonderful things at West Virginia and has been dubbed an excellent hire at Arizona, and I agree
He was a disaster at Michigan. He didn't "fit"
Great coach, did wonderful things at West Virginia and has been dubbed an excellent hire at Arizona, and I agree
He was a disaster at Michigan. He didn't "fit"
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:02 pm to The Mick
I've known a few West Coast people that moved to Baton Rouge for career advancement. They HATED living there. Hated the heat, humidity, crime, poor education systems, grinding poverty, racial issues, and other factors. Could not wait to leave.
This post was edited on 4/8/12 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:05 pm to The Mick
its pretty much an excuse for sucking
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:10 pm to The Mick
It means he just didn't fit into the culture. That's the best way I can explain it. The chemistry just wasn't there.
Page 2 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News