Capologists On Vilma

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a) Saints keep him, he does not count as a roster spot. They do not pay him his salary ($5.4mil).

Does the $5.4mil still count against the cap? Or can you keep him in essence for nothing?

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Doesn't suspension $ go to a charity or something? I'd like clarification on this as well.

Is goddell going to release names today so the story plays out all weekend?

And it would be nice to be able to f'ing sign who we need too as possible replacements or does he just not give a shite?

There is definitely no payment of salary (anywhere). That is real savings. I just wasn't sure on the cap implication. The fines definitely go to charity. Something called the Goodell Family Heritage Organization.

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Could Vilma "restructure" his contract before the suspension to get paid $0 for the 2012 season

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There are some rules about the amount of how much reduction is allowable in restructuring.

$0 isn't possible either as there are stair stepped veteran minimum salaries. That's why some skilled oldtimers cannot latch on. 10yr vet min. is pushing $1mil currently.

Was also wondering this, and what do you know, typically useless Pat Yazwhatever mentioned it in his blog:

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Once players begin suspensions, they don’t count against the cap. They’ll again count against the cap once they are reinstated, but their pro-rated salary for the games they miss won’t continue to count against the cap, because they won’t be paid for the games they miss due to suspension.

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So it's different than a fine. I assume he's only talking about base salary, especially since he's talking about game checks, which is how the base salary is paid. I know when Vick got his suspension he ended up having to pay some of his signing bonus back to the Falcons. If I had to guess, I'd say there's a 95% chance that whatever guaranteed money he was owed will still count against the cap, but that due to his history and the relatively small amount that would be due, Benson won't go after it in court.

So, yeah, if he is suspended for the season, cutting him seems like it would be a formality.

Oops, was thinking Vilma was in his final season of his contract. Yeah, given the tight cap space, if he were suspended for a season, they would most likely do just that.

thinking Vilma was in his final season of his contract.

yeah, $5.9mil for 2013. A year off might actually be good for him physically. Dunno the deadline for redoing contracts before the last year but he seems like a guy that could understand his mkt value and restructure much cheaper.

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If we keep him at no expense, keep him. The "PR" hit of releasing vilma and keeping Payton and coaches wouldn't be good.

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I agree with thie 100%. If hes free this year, let him stay. Cut or trade him next year.

Blue you bring up a damn good queston. Tried google but could not find anything definitive.

What little I found was- if the team suspends the player salary still counts toward the cap. If the NFL supsends the player it does not. So take it for what it is worth, like I said nothing definitive.