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Do I NEED to put a topcoat over primer on a sheet of UPDATED pg.1 w/ pics
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:16 pm
plywood that will stay outside and I want it to stay white anyhow? Or will I be fine with just two coats of primer?
This post was edited on 3/17/12 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:16 pm to Kingpenm3
What kind/brand of paint are you using?
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:23 pm to Ziggy
I just picked up a gallon of some 123 kilz imitation primer today, was hoping that that 2 coats of that would do the trick and I wouldn't need to come back with another white paint on top of it. But I guess some nice glossy paint would look a little better.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:24 pm to Kingpenm3
I think that depends on what kind of primer you used. Primer may not last long outside in the weather like an outdoor weather resistant paint.
I would read the primer label and see what it says.
I would read the primer label and see what it says.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:25 pm to Kingpenm3
the flat sheen of the prior will show too many imperfections in your paint job and make it look bad, it won't take that much more time or money to just throw a coat or two of white paint on, and if you use a roller it will look so much cleaner. IMHO
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:25 pm to Kingpenm3
I'd put a coat of a quality paint over it.
Overkill rather than good enough seems to be the ticket when painting things that are gonna be exposed to the weather.
Overkill rather than good enough seems to be the ticket when painting things that are gonna be exposed to the weather.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:27 pm to Kingpenm3
What is it for? Are you needing it to stay looking good?
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:39 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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What is it for? Are you needing it to stay looking good?
I'm doing a crawfish table, that I plan to store outside when not in use.
I figure I'll go ahead and buy a gallon of some exterior paint and throw a coat or two of it one too.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:40 pm to Kingpenm3
I would paint that up really good. Put many coats on it. Lots if water and abuse on something like that.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:41 pm to Nodust
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I would paint that up really good. Put many coats on it. Lots if water and abuse on something like that.
This. I might even add another coat of primer. And a glossy paint would make it easier to clean.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:48 pm to Boats n Hose
Primer has no UV resistance nor will it be weather resistant for long. Primer merely makes the surface less porous so it will accept the paint better. If it is going to ever see water or sunlight then you need to put an exterior paint on it.
This post was edited on 3/14/12 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:53 pm to Kingpenm3
Yeah I was going to say if a full sheet of flat hardibacker would do the trick use that. Water resistant in itself and with one layer of primer and paint youd be good to go.
But if this is going to be something you use a good bit and might be a little ruff with then just put a couple coats of the primer you bought a couple of coats of the paint and youll be alright. Its just plywood tends to swell with water. And it aint no thang to put another coat of paint on it down the road.
But if this is going to be something you use a good bit and might be a little ruff with then just put a couple coats of the primer you bought a couple of coats of the paint and youll be alright. Its just plywood tends to swell with water. And it aint no thang to put another coat of paint on it down the road.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:56 pm to Boats n Hose
+1 on the glossy. Really good for cleaning.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 8:59 am to Nodust
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+1 on the glossy. Really good for cleaning.
Wife says we might as well throw the purple and gold on it, so I guess it's getting painted after all.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 12:01 pm to Kingpenm3
You should have known she wouldn't let you leave it with some crappy primer in it.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 1:42 pm to Nodust
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You should have known she wouldn't let you leave it with some crappy primer in it.
I know.
Well here's the rest of the story. Ran over to Sherwin Williams to get my P&G. Made the mistake of thinking that they would just "have" the LSU colors waiting for me. I pulled this website up on my phone:
https://www.lsu.edu/pa/identity/colors.shtml
And they said that didn't mean a thing to them. So they made a couple of phone calls to some Baton Rouge stores and came back with this:
They said everyone goes with this purple (Izmir purple):
https://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/color/find-and-explore-colors/paint-colors-by-family/SW6825-izmir-purple/
And she said people choose from a couple of different golds, depending on how "gold" or "yellow" you want it. I ended up picking "citrus":
https://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/color/find-and-explore-colors/paint-colors-by-family/SW6906/?WT.mc_id=Old%20DIY%20Color%20Redirect
The purple shows up funky on my computer but looks much better in the store. I always liked more a bright yellow gold. And then they couldn't make just a quart of the yellow for some reason, so there will be a lot more yellow around the house soon.
LSU colors Sherwin Williams
Posted on 3/15/12 at 1:45 pm to Kingpenm3
You would think one of the paint stores would have P&G in Baton Rouge
Posted on 3/15/12 at 3:52 pm to Nodust
Bring a sample of the color you want and, typically, S-W can match it pretty closely. Paint chip, football program, book, tee-shirt, whatever...
FYI - Like a previous poster mentioned, primer seals the substrate and is formulated to bond with the intermediate and/or topcoat. Primer is not usually UV stabilized/resistant and will breakdown when exposed to the sun.
Re: Sheen
Flat paint is more forgiving if the substrate has surface imperfections. The glossier the sheen, the greater the scrubability of the painted surface, but imperfections are magnified.
Bottom Line: I've got gloss and semi-gloss on my crawfish table. It's done well for me. Good luck!
FYI - Like a previous poster mentioned, primer seals the substrate and is formulated to bond with the intermediate and/or topcoat. Primer is not usually UV stabilized/resistant and will breakdown when exposed to the sun.
Re: Sheen
Flat paint is more forgiving if the substrate has surface imperfections. The glossier the sheen, the greater the scrubability of the painted surface, but imperfections are magnified.
Bottom Line: I've got gloss and semi-gloss on my crawfish table. It's done well for me. Good luck!
Posted on 3/17/12 at 10:40 pm to White Roach
So here we go, crawfish table 99% complete.
I sprayed 2 coats of primer, then two coats of gold on everything. I had my wife put all of the purple on last night, but it got to muggy to dry. Woke up this morning and all of the purple on the table was still wet. I made the mistake of leaving the barrels out in the open and the dew diluted the purple and ran down the side of the barrels. Just need to to another coat of purple.
For the carpentry people, the border pieces are treated 2x4's ripped down to 3" with a 3/4"x3/4" dado cut in the middle, so that the plywood is actually sitting inside of the boards. Even the octagon pieces, which meant one of them had to be cut so that it could be placed vertically to finish the octagon.
Table for sale, $10000.
I sprayed 2 coats of primer, then two coats of gold on everything. I had my wife put all of the purple on last night, but it got to muggy to dry. Woke up this morning and all of the purple on the table was still wet. I made the mistake of leaving the barrels out in the open and the dew diluted the purple and ran down the side of the barrels. Just need to to another coat of purple.
For the carpentry people, the border pieces are treated 2x4's ripped down to 3" with a 3/4"x3/4" dado cut in the middle, so that the plywood is actually sitting inside of the boards. Even the octagon pieces, which meant one of them had to be cut so that it could be placed vertically to finish the octagon.
Table for sale, $10000.
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