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re: NCAA Playoffs Look Like A Reality in 2014
Posted on 2/26/12 at 2:21 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 2/26/12 at 2:21 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Quality of loss was talked about in 2003 among voters as a reason to vote for USC, but in a different context. USC lost by 3 in OT, LSU lost by 12 at home and OU got their arse kicked. That's different from saying Bama should go because OSU lost to Iowa State
yeah, i agree it was mentioned before...would have been better to say it was mentioned, but always overridden by best overall body of work.
the thing is, and SFP mentioned the AP...the AP, Coaches (coaches don't watch games, they readily admit this) and the Harris poll (which might as well include the Kardashians in their group)are influenced by ESPN and their arguments...i don't see how anyone can dismiss this. (and for the record, i'm not in the ESPN hates LSU camp)
And here's my biggest gripe about the eyeball test...even if OSU had gone undefeated, wouldn't the eyeball test have still said Bama was better? if you're going by eyeball test, why should records matter? but OSU certainly would have been in the title game. does it only come into play when the records are the same?
This post was edited on 2/26/12 at 2:38 pm
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 2:54 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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are influenced by ESPN and their arguments
i think this is overblown somewhat
we can bring back another reference to 2007, where ESPN was pushing for non-LSU teams pretty hard, esp UGA
in 2006 the ESPN darlings at the end were OSU and UM, and UF got in, instead
i won't say that OU has a huge media advantage over UT (for 2008)
2009 was easy
2010 was easy
in 2012 bama was SOLIDLY #2 once OSU lost, before "the machine" took over. bama lost votes b/w weeks 14 and 15, also
Posted on 2/26/12 at 3:04 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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And here's my biggest gripe about the eyeball test...even if OSU had gone undefeated, wouldn't the eyeball test have still said Bama was better? if you're going by eyeball test, why should records matter? but OSU certainly would have been in the title game. does it only come into play when the records are the same?
I made basically this same argument with Hanagriff and Risher on the post game show after the SEC CG. The result of the OSU-ISU game did not change my opinion of who was better out of OSU and Bama. But OSU had a better resume.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 3:41 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
One other thing that gets overlooked is the Name Brand Test. Give OSU's 2011 resume to OU or Texas and see if Bama is still ahead.
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