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Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:14 am to 756
Did he have options?
Well let's see now, ""DID"" he have options?
How about..
(1) Get together with Stud, Krags, and BG starting the day after the SECCG and put together a game plan that would at least challenge or surprise Bama's defense.
This was not done. Instead Miles went with option pitches, sideline screens, and....that's about it really....
In fact, Bama's offensive game plan was what LSU's should have been.
What the hell did Chavis plan for ??????? Richardson and that's it ??????????
(2) Make adjustment at halftime. i.e. - blocking schemes, etc. that would allow Jarrett Lee to come in and throw the ball downfield.
Oh I forgot, apparently the 8-0 starter who threw 3 Ints was not an option because it was Bama - the same Bama that Lee beat last year.
(3) How abaout: End arounds, reverses, double reverses, or even fake reverses.
Halfback option passes.
Hook and laterals: Randle to Shepard or Beckham
Mis-direction screens to opposite side.
Up-the-middle pitches to Hilliard
Button-hooks to Deangelo Peterson
Post patterns to Rueben Randle
Bubble screens to Russell Shepard
Fake punts
Wheel routes to Ford and Hilliard
Well let's see now, ""DID"" he have options?
How about..
(1) Get together with Stud, Krags, and BG starting the day after the SECCG and put together a game plan that would at least challenge or surprise Bama's defense.
This was not done. Instead Miles went with option pitches, sideline screens, and....that's about it really....
In fact, Bama's offensive game plan was what LSU's should have been.
What the hell did Chavis plan for ??????? Richardson and that's it ??????????
(2) Make adjustment at halftime. i.e. - blocking schemes, etc. that would allow Jarrett Lee to come in and throw the ball downfield.
Oh I forgot, apparently the 8-0 starter who threw 3 Ints was not an option because it was Bama - the same Bama that Lee beat last year.
(3) How abaout: End arounds, reverses, double reverses, or even fake reverses.
Halfback option passes.
Hook and laterals: Randle to Shepard or Beckham
Mis-direction screens to opposite side.
Up-the-middle pitches to Hilliard
Button-hooks to Deangelo Peterson
Post patterns to Rueben Randle
Bubble screens to Russell Shepard
Fake punts
Wheel routes to Ford and Hilliard
Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:18 am to MetryTyger
quote:In essence, we conceded the MNC to Alabama/Saban for lack of options tried.
Did he have options?
Well let's see now, ""DID"" he have options?
How about..
(1) Get together with Stud, Krags, and BG starting the day after the SECCG and put together a game plan that would at least challenge or surprise Bama's defense.
This was not done. Instead Miles went with option pitches, sideline screens, and....that's about it really....
In fact, Bama's offensive game plan was what LSU's should have been.
What the hell did Chavis plan for ??????? Richardson and that's it ??????????
(2) Make adjustment at halftime. i.e. - blocking schemes, etc. that would allow Jarrett Lee to come in and throw the ball downfield.
Oh I forgot, apparently the 8-0 starter who threw 3 Ints was not an option because it was Bama - the same Bama that Lee beat last year.
(3) How abaout: End arounds, reverses, double reverses, or even fake reverses.
Halfback option passes.
Hook and laterals: Randle to Shepard or Beckham
Mis-direction screens to opposite side.
Up-the-middle pitches to Hilliard
Button-hooks to Deangelo Peterson
Post patterns to Rueben Randle
Bubble screens to Russell Shepard
Fake punts
Wheel routes to Ford and Hilliard
Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:23 am to 756
quote:
Did CLM really have options?
He had 1 for sure:
Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:38 am to Deep Fried
quote:
but his entering the game definitely would have given the team a much needed spark. The crowd would have erupted
There was no way in hell that Miles was going to let the crowd have that moment
Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:44 am to RobbBobb
And to those that truly believe that Les had no option to use Lee :cough:7thward:cough:, then do you believe LSU should have forfeited the first 4 games this year?
Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:22 am to 756
Why would you go into the game without a few plays that look like an option-play but actually are designed to hit big plays down the field? The bama corners were at the line of scrimmage every option play and so were the LBs'/DEs'. This aubie did not understand the Offensive game plan at all.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:46 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
There was no way in hell that Miles was going to let the crowd have that moment
that is exactly what needed to happen
Lee comes in Crowd gets pumped, that energizes the players - game changer
ANYTHING to break the mental block and change gears
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:48 pm to juscause
quote:
This aubie did not understand the Offensive game plan at all.
nobody did.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:50 pm to Chicken
quote:
yes...he could have tried to air it out...obviously the running game was not working. How many passes did we throw down field? Two? Ridiculous.
Chicken, I disagree. We threw 3 passes downfield.
Agree with everything else.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 4:14 pm to 756
Yes...
1. Try more downfield passes to pull Bama out with our receivers
2. Try to run if Bama begins to pull out with our receivers.
3. Lee
4. Mett
When you have zero on the scoreboard, there is just about nothing to lose and also just about everything to gain.
1. Try more downfield passes to pull Bama out with our receivers
2. Try to run if Bama begins to pull out with our receivers.
3. Lee
4. Mett
When you have zero on the scoreboard, there is just about nothing to lose and also just about everything to gain.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 4:15 pm to LSU91MBA
Our receivers were only covered by the time JJ usually saw them, does not mean they were not open.
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 1/13/12 at 4:20 pm to LSUEnvy
Do you really think Miles can learn from this experience. It sucks that someone can be a head coach, arrive on the biggest stage in college football and have to learn how to prepare for a game at this level!
Posted on 1/13/12 at 4:22 pm to 756
All season our team played on emotion because they truly believed in the game plan of the coaches... this week not so much. Should have told him something when EVERYONE is pissed.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 4:30 pm to 3rdRowTrashTalker
quote:
when team is losing and starter is having his worst game ever?
Id argue that he was having a normal game. He played like this first half versus WKU, Georgia, Arkansas, etc. The only difference is that his running backs didn't start busting 20 yard gains for him and his WR's didn't start taking flat routes for 40 yd gains for him. If you go back and watch him play, its hard to attribute much of the team success on him at all.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 4:38 pm to 756
Lee should have played the 4th QTR. He had that options regardless of the things you state.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 5:00 pm to Festus
Right on Festus it is amazing how the JJ fanbois such as 7th ward think that if JJ couldnt make plays then no one could.
I guess he also believes since JJ could only manage 4 yards of total offense against McNeese in 2010 then McNeese also had an impregnable defense! I will have to check their stats but by that logic the McNeese 2010 defense was better than Bama 2011!
I guess he also believes since JJ could only manage 4 yards of total offense against McNeese in 2010 then McNeese also had an impregnable defense! I will have to check their stats but by that logic the McNeese 2010 defense was better than Bama 2011!
Posted on 1/13/12 at 5:18 pm to TulsaTimeTiger
quote:
Our receivers were only covered by the time JJ usually saw them, does not mean they were not open.
I re-watched it last night.... they were mostly covered brah!
@Chicken.... I was not defining "attempted" as meaning THROWN downfield ... but rather that the plays called WERE in fact downfield pass plays... in many cases either the WRs were covered OR the pass rush was on JJ very quickly and he was not able to throw the ball... thus in the STATS they are rushing attempts... agreed... but they were called as downfield passes.. but Bama's Defense prevented us from throwing. Let's give some credit to Alabama -- they played really well ... the Gameplan and the coaching and the QB were not such huge failures.... Bama's ablity to disrupt our gameplan and pass attempts etc. made it that way.
I know we dissagree... too many people had the attitude that LSU was superior to Alabama... but fact is, we were not ... the team that played best and made fewest mistakes would win.... on Jan 9th that team was Alabama.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 5:35 pm to LSU91MBA
LSU91MBA:
Les Miles could have tried something different on offense and did not. Scoring no points and not trying something different is not excusable, regardless of how good the Bama defense was. Les Miles should apologize for:
doing the wrong thing
doing it the wrong way
doing it for the wrong reason
Les Miles could have tried something different on offense and did not. Scoring no points and not trying something different is not excusable, regardless of how good the Bama defense was. Les Miles should apologize for:
doing the wrong thing
doing it the wrong way
doing it for the wrong reason
Posted on 1/13/12 at 5:52 pm to ChinoisBandit
quote:
Les Miles could have tried something different on offense and did not. Scoring no points and not trying something different is not excusable, regardless of how good the Bama defense was. Les Miles should apologize for:
doing the wrong thing
doing it the wrong way
doing it for the wrong reason
Rewatch it without a head full of booze and those purple and gold glasses.
Nearing the end of the first half it's 3 - 0... LSU has had 5 drives but only 1 1st down... yet the score is 3 - 0 and we are TOTALLY in that game... 1 play is all it takes and it's 3 - 7 LSU leads.
Then Bama scores and it's 6 - 0... we have the ball and find and open receiver... then make a mistake on a fumbled snap and end a drive that showed potential. QB mistake... no doubt, blame that one on JJ.
Bama then makes 2 or 3 excellent pass plays and moves into FG range... they kick another and it's now a 2 score game at half.
They come out in the 3rd and again move the ball passing and kick a 4th fg...
Even then --- IF we move the ball and score it could be 12 - 7... no need to panic.
The rest is that they used OUR and their season formula of wearing down an opponent's defense and scoring in the 4th quarter --- the ONLY TD between BOTH teams in 8 quarters of play...
Going from down 6 - 0 to down 12 - 0 without touching the ball was the killer - and that has NOTHING to do with Miles or the offense or the gameplan... it has everything to do with Bama's execution and ablity to pick up 1st downs.
I'll agree -- maybe changing QBs would have provided a spark... but it certainly was not a guarantee and could have backfired and made it totally out of reach.
I really think at 12 - 0 our coaches thought "1 break, 1 big play and we are right back in this thing". But, it never happened. They didn't give up or throw in the towel... and the didn't "leave a bullet in the gun"... they saw what the Bama defense was doing to our OL and how they were covering our WRs and made a decision that J Lee was not a better option at that point and didn't put him in.
I would have liked to see it -- but I don't think it was the collassal failure so many seem to think it was. We got beat by a good team or a night they played a near flawless game. I accept that.
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