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LSU made Nick Saban. He wouldn't be where he is today without us.

Why didn't LSU do the same for Stovall, Archer, Hallman, & Dinardo?
DiNardo got the ball rolling in returning LSU back to being a respected program in college football.
Saban made LSU a national force. The man knows how to take a program from average to elite. There's no disputing that.
Any LSU fan that tries to discredit or doesn't appreciate what he and his staff did are lying to themselves.

Finally some sanity.

LSU was NEVER a powerhouse in college football until the 2000s. Generally a tough out, yes, but never a consistent powerhouse.

And if you forgot the 1990s, then good for you because there's nothing there to savor. A record of 54-58-1.

DiNardo? Five years and his high-water mark is winning the Peach Bowl? And if he was doing such a fabulous job recruiting he sure must have sucked as a coach. He was 7-15 in his last two seasons, including 3-13 in the SEC.

LSU was fortunate to get Saban and he did a great job. Same holds true for Miles. Very different men but both can recruit and coach, and both can lead programs at a very high level.

Why is it so hard for people to simply admit this?

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Posted by hashtag

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Posted on 1/4/12 at 12:58 pm to DallasTiger

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DiNardo? And if he was doing such a fabulous job recruiting he sure must have sucked as a coach.

DiNardo was a freakin' awesome recruiter. He was pulling in classes with talent like Saban and Miles get when LSU was in a far crappier position. We had poor facilities and weren't spending money, and yet he recruited NFL talent every year.

He didn't get it in the quantity that Saban and Miles have. But, he still is one of the best recruiters I've ever seen. There are still starters in the NFL that DiNardo recruited to LSU. In fact, I'd be very interested to see what kind of recruiting he could do at LSU in the current state of our football program. What he was able to do was remarkable.

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Posted on 1/4/12 at 1:07 pm to DallasTiger

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Very different men but both can recruit and coach, and both can lead programs at a very high level.

Why is it so hard for people to simply admit this?

1. Immaturity
2. Lack of education
3. Low self worth

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Posted by H-Town Tiger

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Posted on 1/4/12 at 1:13 pm to DallasTiger

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DiNardo? Five years and his high-water mark is winning the Peach Bowl? He was 7-15 in his last two seasons, including 3-13 in the SEC.

Good to see you slant things to support your argument. Why didn't you say DiNardo's highwater mark was 10-2 and a 10/11 ranking? Or that he best the frick out of ND in a bowl, yes it was the Indy bowl, but there literally half the bowl games in 97 as now, the Indy bowl is one of the older ones and had 2 ranked 9 win teams.

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And if he was doing such a fabulous job recruiting he sure must have sucked as a coach

Your problem is you see it only in either or terms. DiNardo was not a great coach by any means and he fell apart in the end, in part because, while he did recruit some talent, he also signed a bunch of guys that didn't qualify. By his own admission he made mistakes, because coming from Vandy where he was limited, he was like a kid in a candy store with the guys he could recruit and didn't pay enough attention to making sure they were eligible. By his last year, we were short on depth because of guys not being able to enroll. We had games were we would dress 60-65 players vs the 85 scholarship's you can have.

The other part of DiNardo's downfall is was the loss of assistants Watt and Reese. This is because Dean did not let him pay top dollar. IIRC Texas paid Reese close to what we were paying DNardo. When you offer 2nd rate salaries, you get 2nd rate coaches. Emmert changed that. Saban would never have even taken the job under the conditions DiNardo had. If Dean was willing to pony up, we could have maybe gotten Mack Brown in 94, but were'nt willing to go way over what he was getting at UNC.