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Nothing wrong with the idea of a split title

Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:58 am
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31160 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:58 am
In 2003, the problem was not that the AP voted differently. The problem was that USC did not deserve the split title.

We played in the hardest conference in the land, played an extra game where we beat a top 5 Georgia team and then beat the #1 ranked team in the NC game. There was no reason to give the AP title to USC. Simply put, they did not deserve it and got it because of the media love.

Overall, split titles are legitimate. I just don't think USC had a case in 2003.

Flame away.
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 10:00 am
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73181 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:59 am to
the were ranked #1 in the AP and did nothing really lose that ranking after their bowl game

are you saying they didn't deserve the #1 ranking to begin with?
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17690 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:03 am to
One of our arguments in 03 and 07 when referring to the teams that didn't get it was "You agreed on the system at the beginning of the year, now you have to live with it." The same applies to us now. If Alabama beats us, Alabama is champion. The only champion.
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 10:04 am
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52605 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Overall, split titles are legitimate
In the end, there can be only one

Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:08 am to
quote:

We played in the hardest conference in the land, played an extra game where we beat a top 5 Georgia team and then beat the #1 ranked team in the NC game. There was no reason to give the AP title to USC. Simply put, they did not deserve it and got it because of the media love.


this.

quote:

Overall, split titles are legitimate


inevitable for legit.

quote:

I just don't think USC had a case in 2003.


agreed...they were a very good football team who failed to qualify for the natcham game. end of story.

Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:20 am to
No split titles since 1998

BCS isn't a split title
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59171 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:20 am to
quote:

I just don't think USC had a case in 2003


The only reason you think this is because you are an LSU fan and feel the controversy took away from the greatest moment in your time as an LSU fan, assuming you are under 60.

USC was #1 in both traditional polls. OU was only #1 in the BCS, which was because of the complicated formula that was repetitive.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51976 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:27 am to
Split titles are for pussy, "take my ball & go home" types.

Bama is in the game, get over it. If they beat us, they are THE national champs. I certainly will not be satisfied or recognize an AP championship
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 10:28 am
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32457 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:27 am to
I just like it because it makes the BCS look stupid and that alone is well worth it.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:40 am to
When the AP chose in 2003 to become a slave to the BCS by being a component part of the system, they were not free to name a champion on their own.

The AP in 2011 is free from the BCS and can choose who they want
Posted by jameison125
Jersey
Member since Aug 2007
2184 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:18 am to
You're trying to justify a potential loss. Nobody cares about the AP title. The BCS is what we want.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22129 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 12:15 pm to
The problem is that since there is a #1 vs #2 football game played on the field, the AP isn't a real title. It's a paper championship. A title that's voted on. Means nothing IMO. Whoever wins the game is the champion. Period. Maybe in the days when the championship was nothing more than a vote it may have counted, but not anymore.

If LSU loses and "wins" the AP vote it's 100% worthless IMO
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