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re: Looking ahead to the 2012 NFL Draft...

Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:31 pm to
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Denver Broncos - Manti Te'o, 6'2 250 ILB Notre Dame


highly overrated, frequently whiffs tackles, terribly slow in pass coverage.

allegedly has been playing with an injury all season but he never lived up to his HS potential.

btw, story came out today that most of the current irish players believe he is coming back; guess it will depend on this draft projection.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:34 pm to
Patriots

Mark Barron
Jarvis Jones
Kendall Wright in the second round
Posted by Cochise
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:35 pm to
Giants projected at 16th pick right now...with our biggest need at OL, I wouldn't mind having Barrett Jones out of Alabama, even though we will probably take someone like David DeCastro from Stanford.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:35 pm to
Well, if we can't get him, we need to go after one of these three: 1) Claiborne 2) Kirkpatrick 3) Melvin Ingram

I would say Vontez Burfict, but he's just too emotional...
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:36 pm to
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Oddly, winning games has kind of painted them into a corner.


It's an odd situation, for sure.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:37 pm to
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He's slow as frick, but he is huge...

I see him being a huge liabilty in coverage. He's a dominant run stopper, though.



ILB in a 3-4 dont need to cover
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:38 pm to
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ILB in a 3-4 dont need to cover


One of them doesn't, the other does.

If this is about Pitt, they have an insanely talented and fast LB already so they can get away with it.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279478 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:39 pm to
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allegedly has been playing with an injury all season but he never lived up to his HS potential.




115 tackles 13 for loss 4.5 sacks


seems pretty good to me. will prob be an all american
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:40 pm to
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ILB in a 3-4 dont need to cover


Some do. Someone could back me up on this, but I've read where Nico Johnson comes out of the game in favor of CJ Moseley because of his lack of pass coverage ability (Alabama's LBs). Plus, in the 2012 Iron Bowl, Dont'a was matched up with McCalebb some out of the back field and he was way too slow. He is a very smart player, though. Maybe he'll be able to adjust.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:41 pm to
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Some do. Someone could back me up on this, but I've read where Nico Johnson comes out of the game in favor of CJ Moseley because of his lack of pass coverage ability (Alabama's LBs). Plus, in the 2012 Iron Bowl, Dont'a was matched up with McCalebb some out of the back field and he was way too slow. He is a very smart player, though. Maybe he'll be able to adjust.



Nico has actually gotten pretty solid at pass coverage as the season has progressed. Moseley hasn't played nearly as much this year as he did last year because of it.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71680 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

Some do. Someone could back me up on this, but I've read where Nico Johnson comes out of the game in favor of CJ Moseley because of his lack of pass coverage ability (Alabama's LBs). Plus, in the 2012 Iron Bowl, Dont'a was matched up with McCalebb some out of the back field and he was way too slow. He is a very smart player, though. Maybe he'll be able to adjust.


I know in the BB 34 (All coaches run their 34 differently fwiw) you usually have a decently athletic LB (Bruschi/Mayo) that can cover, TFL, stuff like that. Then you have the bigger guy who's only reason for being on the team is run stopping (Ted Johnson/Brandon Spikes).
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:43 pm to
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Nico has actually gotten pretty solid at pass coverage as the season has progressed. Moseley hasn't played nearly as much this year as he did last year because of it.


That makes sense. I was just using him as an example to prove that some ILB in the 3-4 have to actually pass cover.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279478 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:44 pm to
expecting any LB to cover McCaleb would be crazy.
Posted by Cochise
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
1077 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:45 pm to
damn mock draft has Ryan Broyles going 92 overall to Pats in 3rd round...

Does he really go that late?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:45 pm to
Yeah, I was about to say, what LB could cover that guy? He's fast as frick.
Posted by tiger2012
bossier city/Los Angeles/Atlanta
Member since Sep 2006
4493 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:49 pm to
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ILB in a 3-4 dont need to cover


Sean Lee is one of the best pass coverage linebackers in the league. he's an inside backer in 3-4.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:51 pm to
Meh, just wait for the wind to blow and OMAC falls down
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279478 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 2:57 pm to
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Sean Lee is one of the best pass coverage linebackers in the league. he's an inside backer in 3-4.




he is. i

ts not a prerequisite though.


those cold weather 3-4 teams wont hesitate to add some beef in the middle if the guy is also athletic.

Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112483 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 3:01 pm to
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damn mock draft has Ryan Broyles going 92 overall to Pats in 3rd round... Does he really go that late?


I would JIMP a little as a pats fan. He could deffinitly fit in our system.

If he falls that far itll be due to the injury plus a loaded WR class
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279478 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 3:02 pm to
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If he falls that far itll be due to the injury plus a loaded WR class




and the fact that he is a midget
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