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Went long gold today
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:16 am
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:16 am
Gold had been looking like it was going into a correction the last couple of weeks, but failed to break down. With the nice price action this morning I put on a starter position in gold.
Looks like the FED and the Euro's are going to crank up the presses here soon.
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Seems that a large Euro bank could have been on the brink.
Oil would also be a good trade right now.
Looks like the FED and the Euro's are going to crank up the presses here soon.
LINK
Seems that a large Euro bank could have been on the brink.
Oil would also be a good trade right now.
This post was edited on 11/30/11 at 11:32 am
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:23 am to LSU0358
Brave soul. Monday the prospects for a Euro bailout were dim, and today things are looking up. If the pigs ultimately fail, should be interesting to see how far PMs get taken down.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:42 am to saltydawg
A small position with stops in place...Stops and risk management are key in the PM market.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:23 am to LSU0358
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Went long on gold today
no need to say "on"
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:41 am to LSU0358
Nah, just friendly lingo advice.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:44 am to Tiger JJ
Maybe he threw a 40 yard pass after snorting gold?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:49 am to TheHiddenFlask
No I snort Platinum. Gold gets injected :) But yes, the proper terminology does not have on in it.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:06 pm to LSU0358
Gold has all the signs of a bubble and basically only has sentimental value. The bottom could drop out of that anytime, sucker bet in my opinion.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:18 pm to Beerinthepocket
What signs are those? The bottom could drop out of anything (stocks, mutual fund, etc) at any time.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:59 pm to LSU0358
2,000 an oz. seems inevitable doesn't it?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:39 pm to LSU0358
People seem to think any situation is good for gold. Inflation high? good for gold. Inflation low? good for gold, etc. People said the same thing about real estate in the first half of the 2000s. Think about it, what is it that actually causes gold to be valuable? Does it create value? Create future cash flows? (aside from terminal value when you sell it which seems to be completely arbitrary) Does it have some important industrial use? (few are far in between)Myself and finance PhDs that I have spoken to do not see where this enormous amount of value the market seems to think gold has comes from.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:12 pm to Beerinthepocket
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what is it that actually causes gold to be valuable?
I don't think of gold as a shiny chunk of metal that I'll be hoarding in case of anarchy breaking out.
I think of it as a currency. Other currencies are in a race to the bottom so massive amounts of debt can be monetized. One can deny that that is happening if they want, but shortly the ECB will be forced to print money to prevent a banking crisis and the US will have to follow suit to keep the dollar from skyrocketing against the Euro.
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Myself and finance PhDs that I have spoken to do not see where this enormous amount of value the market seems to think gold has comes from.
Its valuable the same reason a stock sold on the market is valuable, as more people buy it, price goes up. The trick is to have sold yours before everyone else starts to sell as only so many people can fit through a door at one time.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:06 pm to LSU0358
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Its valuable the same reason a stock sold on the market is valuable, as more people buy it, price goes up.
At least with stocks I can look at earnings. I just have no idea how to get a valuation on gold
Posted on 11/30/11 at 6:29 pm to The Easter Bunny
Posted on 11/30/11 at 6:45 pm to LSURep864
Gold threads, guaranteed to produce golden replies of all manner.
Posted on 12/1/11 at 8:01 am to LSU0358
About yesterday...
IIRC, in early Sept of 2008, we had a 1000 point drop in the Dow in about 2 weeks. On 18 Sept, 2008, the Fed announced an increase in the currency swap lines with Europe and the Swiss, and also new lines with BOJ, Canadian Central Bank and BOE.
The ensuing result was a huge rally in the Dow that lasted (roughly) a couple of weeks.
They just buying time. Next up, the FED will be buying Euro sovereign bonds. That's where it gets very dicey politically.
Yesterday just reeks of desperation.
IIRC, in early Sept of 2008, we had a 1000 point drop in the Dow in about 2 weeks. On 18 Sept, 2008, the Fed announced an increase in the currency swap lines with Europe and the Swiss, and also new lines with BOJ, Canadian Central Bank and BOE.
The ensuing result was a huge rally in the Dow that lasted (roughly) a couple of weeks.
They just buying time. Next up, the FED will be buying Euro sovereign bonds. That's where it gets very dicey politically.
Yesterday just reeks of desperation.
Posted on 12/1/11 at 8:44 am to Blakely Bimbo
I'd love for you to elaborate on that...
Posted on 12/1/11 at 9:32 am to Blakely Bimbo
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IIRC, in early Sept of 2008, we had a 1000 point drop in the Dow in about 2 weeks. On 18 Sept, 2008, the Fed announced an increase in the currency swap lines with Europe and the Swiss, and also new lines with BOJ, Canadian Central Bank and BOE.
This was not the only thing that happened from a liquidity stand point in the last week.
1. IMF liquidity arrangements made last Tuesday.
2. A FED vice chair releasing a statement containing the quote, "The Federal Reserve continues to provide highly accommodative monetary conditions to foster a stronger economic recovery in a context of price stability.
3. The Euro EFSF plan that will increase a fund to lend to/or buy soverign debt to approximately 1 Trillion dollars.
4. China dropped the reserve requirements for it's banks for the first time since 2008.
Desperation? Maybe, but I'd call it a coordinated plan by central banks.
Now does all of this mean for sure that gold/commodities will go up? I don't know, and am willing to admit I don't know. I've placed my bet so to speak with stops in place and we shall see.
This post was edited on 12/1/11 at 9:37 am
Posted on 12/1/11 at 9:44 am to LSU0358
#3 isn't new, and in fact, all that really came about was that they seem almost certain that they cannot get 1T committed, and thus the reason for pressure on item #1 to try and alleviate that problem.
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