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re: New Olympus CEO fired after raising questions on $1.5B in hidden losses

Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:32 pm to
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Japanese and U.S. regulators are probing allegations by former chief executive officer Michael C. Woodford that more than $1.5 billion was siphoned through offshore funds. That money may have been used to cancel out non-performing securities that Olympus was keeping off its books, according to a report in the Shukan Asahi magazine, which cited people familiar with the process.


What the frick does this mean?

So they "hid losses" by "paying other people?" And that "canceled out" losses? And said losses they were "hiding" were already "off the books?" If they're off the books, then why would you be hiding any losses from them in the first place...they're not "on the books."

This is all I can come up with. They have these apparent off-balance sheet securities, which are also apparently underwater. At some point, they're put under pressure by someone (whoever that may be) to take these securities onto their balance sheet (for whatever reason). Maybe they were legally exposed to losses? In order to conceal these losses, they either straight up paid off someone to keep them "off the books," (again, whoever "they" might be in this case, or why they might be demanding such, which sounds like blackmail) or paid someone to somehow re-inflate the value of the securities by cycling the fees back into the securities, which were subsequently taken back onto the balance sheet at some minor loss at revaluation. No matter how you slice it, there's a massive fraud involved that is beyond any accounting chicanery that the link is implicating. Its a fraud story, not an accounting story.
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 2:34 pm
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:02 pm to
and i thought my financial advisor was taking me to the cleaner
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9383 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:18 pm to
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What the frick does this mean?


Have to read through all this shite again tomorrow, it is f'n bizarre. Things like this, MF Global, all the fraudulent Chinese reverse mergers plus all the other uncovered bombs out there, makes one really question investing these days. How about the Dynergy sub creditor cram down today, I mean who do you really trust? Investing in international and/or emerging small cap ETFs, how many companies in them are legit?
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