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Try this SEC divisional alignment
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:16 am
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:16 am
Put the teams that must play every year in the same division:
Division 1:
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Tennessee
Florida
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Division 2:
LSU
Arkansas
South Carolina
Texas A&M
Mizzou
Ole Miss
Miss State
No permanent opponents...play everyone in your division, plus two outside the division.
Yes, Division 1 seems much stronger historically, but I honestly think that these things go in cycles. If these divisions existed this year, they would be pretty even with an edge to Division 2.
LSU would lose its annual games with Alabama and Auburn, but could face them in the championship game, which would be amazing.
If we are going to keep historical rivalries around, and still play an 8-game schedule, something has to give. There is no way you should have to wait 10 years to play a team from the other division.
I am sure this alignment has been thrown out before, but let's pick it apart.
Division 1:
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Tennessee
Florida
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Division 2:
LSU
Arkansas
South Carolina
Texas A&M
Mizzou
Ole Miss
Miss State
No permanent opponents...play everyone in your division, plus two outside the division.
Yes, Division 1 seems much stronger historically, but I honestly think that these things go in cycles. If these divisions existed this year, they would be pretty even with an edge to Division 2.
LSU would lose its annual games with Alabama and Auburn, but could face them in the championship game, which would be amazing.
If we are going to keep historical rivalries around, and still play an 8-game schedule, something has to give. There is no way you should have to wait 10 years to play a team from the other division.
I am sure this alignment has been thrown out before, but let's pick it apart.
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 9:17 am
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Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:21 am to Chicken
D1 would be far stronger and it wouldn't be close.
UK and Vandy would never ever make it to the SECG.
Not that they have much of an opportunity now but that would seal it forever.
UK and Vandy would never ever make it to the SECG.
Not that they have much of an opportunity now but that would seal it forever.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:25 am to Helo
quote:disagree...this year, Division 2 is stronger.
D1 would be far stronger and it wouldn't be close
You can't predict how things will shake out in the future...
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:28 am to Chicken
I like State's chances of going 4-4 in the SEC every year.
Put Mizzou in the east and be done with it.
Put Mizzou in the east and be done with it.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:30 am to Chicken
quote:
Division 2:
LSU
Arkansas
South Carolina
Texas A&M
Mizzou
Ole Miss
Miss State
This would feel like we had been kicked out of the SEC.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:31 am to Cdawg
quote:with or without permanent opponents?
Put Mizzou in the east and be done with it.
with permanent opponents, you will play some teams once every 10 years (unless you get to face them in the championship game). If this is no big deal, then Mizzou to the East is the logical move.
But it would be a shame to have to wait so long to play some teams.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:33 am to Chicken
quote:
LSU
Arkansas
South Carolina
Texas A&M
Mizzou
Ole Miss
Miss State
which one of these doesnt belong here
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:33 am to Chicken
quote:
this year, Division 2 is stronger.
You can't predict how things will shake out in the future
Yes, this year there would be a slight edge to Division 2, and while you can't predict the future with precision, I think you can predict with a high level of confidence that there will be VERY few years in the futue when Auburn, Georgia, Florida and Tennessee are all this weak AND South Carolina, Texas A&M, Missouri and Arkansas are all this strong, all at the same time. Division 1 would, in most years, be significantly stronger than Division 2.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:34 am to Nuts4LSU
quote:Imagine this as our schedule
This would feel like we had been kicked out of the SEC.
Florida
Auburn
Ole Miss
Miss State
Arkansas
South Carolina
Texas A&M
Mizzou
You will face, at a minimum, one of the stronger Div 1 teams every year, and during most years, you will face two of them.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:34 am to Chicken
South Carolina in the Div 2 seems out of place.
I understand you were trying to make the two Divs even as far as competition. But like you said, It comes in waves and for the most part equals out. I think an Alabama school would be a better fit.
I understand you were trying to make the two Divs even as far as competition. But like you said, It comes in waves and for the most part equals out. I think an Alabama school would be a better fit.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:34 am to Rouge
quote:
LSU
Arkansas
South Carolina
Texas A&M
Mizzou
Ole Miss
Miss State
which one of these doesnt belong here
Actually there are three that don't belong...the SEC teams.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:36 am to NOLA Bengals
The only reason to put these schools:
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Tennessee
Florida
in the same division is because of the "untouchable" rivaly games that they play among themselves.
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Tennessee
Florida
in the same division is because of the "untouchable" rivaly games that they play among themselves.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:38 am to Nuts4LSU
To me, Arkansas and South Carolina seem more SEC than Kentucky and Vandy.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:38 am to Nuts4LSU
i tried a version of North Division and South Division, but it really doesn't work too well
SEC North
Arkansas, Missouri, UGA, Tennessee, S. Carolina, UK, and Vandy
SEC South
A&M, LSU, UF, AU, Bama, MSU, and Ole Miss
SEC North
Arkansas, Missouri, UGA, Tennessee, S. Carolina, UK, and Vandy
SEC South
A&M, LSU, UF, AU, Bama, MSU, and Ole Miss
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:39 am to Rouge
Rouge, with an 8-game schedule, you will still need permanent opponents, using your alignment...are you ok with us playing UGA or Tenn once every 10 years?
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:42 am to Chicken
quote:
Imagine this as our schedule
Florida
Auburn
Ole Miss
Miss State
Arkansas
South Carolina
Texas A&M
Mizzou
That would be our schedule once every seven years.
Other years, instead of Florida and Auburn, we'd have Georgia and Vanderbilt, or Kentucky and Tennessee, etc.
quote:
You will face, at a minimum, one of the stronger Div 1 teams every year, and during most years, you will face two of them
Yes, but never more than two of them. We routinely play Alabama, Auburn, Florida and another strong opponent most years. We'd be playing one, or maybe two, opponents of that caliber in most years with this divisional format.
Outside of that, we'd be having to depend on Arkie and Aggie to have stronger than usual seasons just to have a decent schedule, and forget about ever having one of those killer schedules that we face every 2-3 years now, like in 2006 and 2007.
And, from a purely nostalgic and emotional standpoint, I would not want to have all four of the non-original SEC members in the same division (especially if it's our division) while the other division got to continue having a traditional SEC lineup.
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 9:43 am
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:47 am to Chicken
quote:i dont buy this, but no point in trying to fight it
you will still need permanent opponents
quote:it sucks, but that is the name of the game with expansion
are you ok with us playing UGA or Tenn once every 10 years?
here are my permanent opponents
A&M-Mizzou
AU-UGA
Bama-Tennessee
Ole Miss-Vandy
MSU-UK
LSU-Arkansas
UF-S. Carolina
i do realize that the UF-Tennessee rivalry is lost in my scenario
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:52 am to Nuts4LSU
quote:it could be spaced out so that you never play Vandy and Kentucky in back to back years
Yes, but never more than two of them. We routinely play Alabama, Auburn, Florida and another strong opponent most years. We'd be playing one, or maybe two, opponents of that caliber in most years with this divisional format.
Bama/Vandy
Vandy/Florida
Florida/Auburn
Auburn/Kentucky
Kentucky/Georgia
Georgia/Tennessee
Tennessee/Bama
ok, maybe not the greatest idea, but I am sure this was on the drawing board at the SEC offices.
The other options:
- one permanent and one rotating (downside is a team having to wait 10 years to play some teams).
- nine-game conference schedule (one permanent and two rotating)...two many issues with this.
One permanent and one rotating is the cleanest solution...but I hate that we won't see some teams that often...
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:54 am to Chicken
quote:
Division 1:
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Tennessee
Florida
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Division 2:
LSU
Arkansas
South Carolina
Texas A&M
Mizzou
Ole Miss
Miss State
Well switch out Vandy and USCe and you have a true East(div1) and West (div2) split and improves your traveling within the divisions.
This still keeps most rivalries intact.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 9:55 am to Rouge
quote:Rouge, not bad...but why not just leave divisions as they are, add Mizzou to the East and give them A&M as their permanent?
here are my permanent opponents
A&M-Mizzou
AU-UGA
Bama-Tennessee
Ole Miss-Vandy
MSU-UK
LSU-Arkansas
UF-S. Carolina
i do realize that the UF-Tennessee rivalry is lost in my scenario
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 9:56 am
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