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Jefferson's Smart Decision to throw the ball away (with Pictures)
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:04 pm
OK...So I pulled up the game, got out my camera, and took pictures of the incomplete pass Jefferson threw away on 3rd and goal in the 3rd Quarter to show why this was a SMART decision.
PICTURE 1: Pre-snap. LSU in a run formation with the TE on the right side and an extra TE on the right side of the formation. All 22 players a visible.
PICTURE 2: At the snap, Jefferson appears to be reading the safety who is lined up on the goal line 5 yards off the ball. #88, #11, #83 and #44 (the other potential receivers) all stay in to block (MAX PROTECT). Leaving #2 as the only potential receiver who appears to be lock-up man to man.
PIC 3- As JJ reaches his 3rd step in a 3 step drop, it is clear the safety has turned to help the corner, with inside responsibilities first. NOTE: Jefferson still appears to be reading the safety, #9.
PIC 4: Close up of the safety taking away the inside. Now #2's only option is to run the OUT route I mentioned in the earlier thread.
PIC 5- Wider angle showing Jefferson now looking at a double covered receiver.
PICTURE 6- Now #9, anticipating the out route runs underneath #2 as JJ is releasing the ball. A catch-able pass would then be intercepted.
So as you can see...He DID NOT stare down one receiver, he read the safety, and made the correct decision based on how the Defense played. Had it been man coverage and the safety would have blitzed, which is what LSU anticipated, #2 breaks to the inside and scores and easy TD.
PICTURE 1: Pre-snap. LSU in a run formation with the TE on the right side and an extra TE on the right side of the formation. All 22 players a visible.
PICTURE 2: At the snap, Jefferson appears to be reading the safety who is lined up on the goal line 5 yards off the ball. #88, #11, #83 and #44 (the other potential receivers) all stay in to block (MAX PROTECT). Leaving #2 as the only potential receiver who appears to be lock-up man to man.
PIC 3- As JJ reaches his 3rd step in a 3 step drop, it is clear the safety has turned to help the corner, with inside responsibilities first. NOTE: Jefferson still appears to be reading the safety, #9.
PIC 4: Close up of the safety taking away the inside. Now #2's only option is to run the OUT route I mentioned in the earlier thread.
PIC 5- Wider angle showing Jefferson now looking at a double covered receiver.
PICTURE 6- Now #9, anticipating the out route runs underneath #2 as JJ is releasing the ball. A catch-able pass would then be intercepted.
So as you can see...He DID NOT stare down one receiver, he read the safety, and made the correct decision based on how the Defense played. Had it been man coverage and the safety would have blitzed, which is what LSU anticipated, #2 breaks to the inside and scores and easy TD.
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:05 pm to LSUPHILLY72
I noticed this as well - it was a one man route and it was covered. It was well done by JJ.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:05 pm to LSUPHILLY72
It seems that in every shot Jefferson is shown he is looking at Randle or some chick in the stands behind him...
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:05 pm to LSUPHILLY72
Sounds like you know a little about the QB position.
I agree. Loving the two QBs as long as Lee starts and Jefferson keeps em guessing.
I agree. Loving the two QBs as long as Lee starts and Jefferson keeps em guessing.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:07 pm to LSUPHILLY72
frickING HEISMAN!
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:07 pm to ChancesR
Could he not have checked him off in some way?
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:07 pm to LSUPHILLY72
what I didn't like about that play is they gave him one read and said if it's not there, throw it away. Not his fault, more uber-conservative play-calling. However, point being, if you don't have faith in him to throw don't put him in in that situation.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:07 pm to Roach
quote:which was easy to see by the formation and super easy decision by the safety
it was a one man route
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:08 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:
Could he not have checked him off in some way?
Why would he check off when the pre-snap read showed man coverage?
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:08 pm to LSUPHILLY72
Why would there not be a TE or RB also in the route on the strong side? We left in 7 to block 5 in the RZ?
WHY?
The middle was completely vacated with the Mike stepping up.
did not notice single wr route while in the game.
WHY?
The middle was completely vacated with the Mike stepping up.
did not notice single wr route while in the game.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:09 pm to LSUPHILLY72
The problem is that JJ waited to make the throw before RR made his cut. If he had made the throw before the cut, like on a fade route, RR would have been the only player that could have caught the ball. As is typical, JJ can't make the decision to throw until RR makes his cut; by then, it is too late.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:09 pm to MSMHater
He also took forever to throw the ball on that play. He hesitated. Now, it was the right decision, but that throw is a quick step drop.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:09 pm to Roach
quote:In before someone says they are simplifying the playbook for JJ. #rantards
it was a one man route
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:10 pm to LSUPHILLY72
quote:
So as you can see...He DID NOT stare down one receiver, he read the safety, and made the correct decision based on how the Defense played. Had it been man coverage and the safety would have blitzed, which is what LSU anticipated, #2 breaks to the inside and scores and easy TD.
You can try to justify the poor throw in that sense, but if JJ throws the play on time, it doesn't matter. JJ, as usual, held the ball too long and killed the play's chances.
Fades have to be quickly thrown, not drop back wait 3 seconds and then throw.
Protection was not breaking down, he had plenty of time to move around with the ball and yet decided to just quickly throw it away.
It wasn't a stupid decision, and that point is made. JJ didn't make a negative play, but there is a reason Lee is usually the QB we throw fades with, and that is JJ sucks at them.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:10 pm to MSMHater
quote:
We left in 7 to block 5 in the RZ?
we left in 9 to block.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:10 pm to WacoTiger
quote:
The problem is that JJ waited to make the throw before RR made his cut
This would be correct
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:10 pm to LSUPHILLY72
quote:
PICTURE 6- Now #9, anticipating the out route runs underneath #2 as JJ is releasing the ball. A catch-able pass would then be intercepted.
throwing the ball at this point is already WAY too late.
sorry. it isn't the "heady" decision you want it to become.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:10 pm to WacoTiger
quote:
The problem is that JJ waited to make the throw before RR made his cut. If he had made the throw before the cut, lie on a fade route, RR would have been the only player that could have caught the ball. As is typical, JJ can't make the decision to throw until RR makes his cut; by then, it is too late.
you are so full of shite its not even funny. thanks for letting us know you have no clue what you are talking about. rr was DOUBLE covered!
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:11 pm to CptBengal
quote:
throwing the ball at this point is already WAY too late.
sorry. it isn't the "heady" decision you want it to become.
you kidding?! He looked like fricking Manning on that play!
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:11 pm to Putty
quote:
we left in 9 to block.
Doh. Sorry.
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