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How long does it take TCU to become mediocre again?

Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:12 am
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:12 am
TCU has had its recent run while being a member of one of those bottom-feeder conferences...who really thinks that they will maintain that level of success? And once it stops, and the program loses its luster, will it be another Baylor when the dust settles?

This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 8:27 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:23 am to
not long. they had a niche where they were getting some good players and playing a weak schedule (like boise). their coach was then annointed as right behind saban in the greatness category. well, with a&m on the upswing and tcu's schedule getting tougher, the small private school in north texas is not going to be as good. i say their luster will be lost quickly (esp with the year they are currently having) and baylor might pass them up.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:27 am to
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TCU has had its recent run while being a member of Three of those bottom-feeder conferences...


FIFY, I hope they are happy where they are at, 5 conferences since 2000
Posted by guttata
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:30 am to
They will actually get better recruits, cause they are actually in a recognized conference. Great move by them.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:35 am to
I don't think that's necessarily going to happen. They do seem to have a good cadre of wealthy alumni/boosters so I don't think money for facilities will be a problem and it's a good school with a tradition and history.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:40 am to
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They will actually get better recruits
not if they are losing...
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:41 am to
2 years...maybe sooner.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:45 am to
quote:

How long does it take TCU to become mediocre again?


If this follows true to form, Patterson, who is no one's fool, will abandon ship ASAP and the program will take an immediate dive (please see Louisville/Petrino for a recent example).

Secondly, it wasn't that long ago that Utah was the TCU we see today. Where is Utah today after joining the Pac 12?

vs. Montana State Salt Lake City W, 27-10
at USC TV Los Angeles, Calif. L, 23-14
at BYU TV Provo, Utah W, 54-10
vs. Washington Salt Lake City L, 31-14
vs. Arizona St. Salt Lake City L, 35-14

Enough said!!!

This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 8:47 am
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:46 am to
I was just about to post this same thing. Utah isn't exactly making a strong arguement about these top non-AQ's being competetive week in and week out.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:01 am to
quote:

How long does it take TCU to become mediocre again?


Next year!
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:04 am to
TCU has that same stigma Boise has had... they can beat good teams once or twice a season (ie Wisconsin last season, Oklahoma a few years back) But no one really thinks they would be able to play games like that on a weekly basis and still be decent.
Posted by GerryDiNardo
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:29 am to
This is assuming TCU isn't currently mediocre, correct?
Posted by relapse98
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:39 am to
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They will actually get better recruits, cause they are actually in a recognized conference. Great move by them.


Sure as hell didn't happen when they were in the SWC. The reason they were not invited to the Big 12 is because they Sucked for a number of decades at the end of the SWC.
Posted by Mahootney
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:50 am to
quote:

again?
I'm not understanding the question. Weren't they always mediocre?
Posted by Uncle Stu
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:51 am to
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They do seem to have a good cadre of wealthy alumni/boosters so I don't think money for facilities will be a problem

It's been a problem to date

they play in what I guess is a dump of a stadium, the way I've heard it described. They currently are putting a fresh coat of paint on the thing, but even with all the recent success, there hasnt been enough money in the coffers to do any substantive remodeling. Now, with the big12 TV money, I'm guessing that will change, but I cant imagine them really reaping those rewards for another few years - at which point and time, it'll be too late.

And yes, their fans are loyal, but they are few in number and TCU has had virtually no success rousing interest in it's athletic program outside of the alumni base.

I think it's a tough road ahead for them.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10419 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:55 am to
quote:

They will actually get better recruits
not if they are losing...


The exact same could be said for A&M.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24527 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:02 am to
quote:

I think it's a tough road ahead for them.

agreed...I am wondering if, deep down, they realize that they have made a mistake and that the Big East was a smarter move long term.

I see TCU being like Northwestern in the Big Ten...competitive at times, but mostly bottom half of the conference.

Posted by gmr0723
Member since Oct 2011
4 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:11 am to
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fresh coat of paint…substantive remodeling


Amon Carter was a dump.

In December of last year TCU imploded the entire west side of its stadium and built a new structure on the north end zone. They intend to implode the east side after this year. The stadium, save for the concourse on the south end zone, will be entirely brand new.

Before you spew claims about topics you know nothing about; check your facts.

LINK
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12025 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:12 am to
Chicken,
You have to admit that the Big12 is geographically a MUCH better fit for TCU. It's where they probably wanted to be in the first place, but without all of the aTm, Mizz chaos.... they were never going to get an invite.

They knew the only way out of the Mid-Majors was to take whatever they could get. The Big East was the opening of the door, and now, I bet they couldn't be happier than being in the Big12.

Would it be better to be Northwestern or Vandy in a Big Conference.... or a Boise in a small one?

I bet they take the big money from the big conference every time.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12025 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:15 am to
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gmr0723
TCU Fan
Member since Oct 2011
1 post

Geez. You sure woke up on the wrong side of the post this morning. You're never going to make it around here with that kind of an attitude noob.

Solid first post.
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