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re: Explain the negatives of JJ getting 5-6 wildcat/option snaps

Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5398 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:36 pm to
I think the point you retards aren't getting is that everything you say JJ would bring to the table HAS BEEN TRIED FOR TWO frickING YEARS.

IT DIDN'T WORK THEN EITHER.

What we are doing now is working. Don't screw it up.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:36 pm to
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nuh uh. he would fumble or get sacked. thats what all the rantard coaches told me.

Oh yea, I forgot.

People are forgetting that Jefferson could go in there and just hand it off, but still be a great decoy in doing so.

But yea, he'd probably trip over himself and fumble it backwards 80 yards for a safety if he did. What was I thinking?
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27770 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:37 pm to
Rank every athlete on our team. Tell me where Jefferson ranks, and that will answer any question you have.
Posted by ryanoz
DFW
Member since Oct 2008
2735 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

I think the point you retards aren't getting is that everything you say JJ would bring to the table HAS BEEN TRIED FOR TWO frickING YEARS. IT DIDN'T WORK THEN EITHER. What we are doing now is working. Don't screw it up.


Didn't work for Lee either.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:37 pm to
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Honest question. How many times has Lee handed the ball off in shotgun?

Probably not very much. So you're saying this could give the defense another look to defend?

Oh no, we certainly don't want that.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5398 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:38 pm to
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Didn't work for Lee either.


I guess you closed your eyes at the end of the Tenn, Florida and Bama games huh?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34037 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:40 pm to
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Why is it even needed at this point.


It hasn't been. We haven't faced the best defenses we're gonna face yet. We might need it.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:41 pm to
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I guess you closed your eyes at the end of the Tenn, Florida and Bama games huh?


Meh. JJ never had any good games. Lee never had any bad games. We get it already.
Posted by ryanoz
DFW
Member since Oct 2008
2735 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:41 pm to
guess you didn't watch the cotton bowl
Posted by Guster
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
4441 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:41 pm to
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Why can't Jefferson go in there and hand the ball off to Ware or Ford? He's certainly more of a threat to run than Lee, so if it makes the ends hesitate at all then it would be worth it.

What, are we so afraid of Jefferson that we won't even let him go in there and hand the ball off?

You are the insane one.



Honestly, you have two choices.

With Lee, you can have the LBs/DBs hesitate b/c of a possible play action pass.

With JJ, you can have the LBs/Ends hesitate b/c of a possible misdirection.

I'd rather have the former, but that's preference. Not saying that JJ can't do a play action pass, but I just find that it would be unlikely for Stud to bring JJ in and test out his arm, when JL is proven he can do it.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34037 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:42 pm to
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I guess you closed your eyes at the end of the Tenn, Florida and Bama games huh?


One combined quarter of football out of about 12 quarters!!! frick YEAH!!!!
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:43 pm to
Bottom line:

If Jefferson goes in there and hands off to Ware or Ford out of shotgun, that gives the defense a different look. That look is the possibility of the quarterback keeping the ball, which we don't have with Lee in.

We would only do this 3 or 4 times a game. If people in this thread truly think that it would absolutely kill our offense to give this a shot, then you are simply blinded by your hate for Jefferson.
Posted by Housplants
Germantown, TN
Member since Dec 2006
1458 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

From Bama on JJ looked solid. Not amazing but decent


No where near as good as Lee has looked this season.


quote:

With Krags his mechanics have looked better in the spring game


Did we watch the same spring game. JJ was terrible in the spring game.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
78166 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:44 pm to
There are better options at QB for the wildcat, better runners and almost as good throwers......and the offense is better in the redzone this year compared to last
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

Honestly, you have two choices.

With Lee, you can have the LBs/DBs hesitate b/c of a possible play action pass.

With JJ, you can have the LBs/Ends hesitate b/c of a possible misdirection.

I'd rather have the former, but that's preference. Not saying that JJ can't do a play action pass, but I just find that it would be unlikely for Stud to bring JJ in and test out his arm, when JL is proven he can do it.

While I agree, Lee is much better in play action passes when going from under center. It allows him to get his feet underneath him and step up in the pocket and make passes down field.

Play action passes out of shotgun are usually for short passes.

I see your point, but I still think giving Jefferson 2-4 snaps a game couldn't do anything to hurt the team.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34037 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:45 pm to
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With Lee, you can have the LBs/DBs hesitate b/c of a possible play action pass.


So now JJ is too stupid to fake a hand-off?
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:45 pm to
I'll admit that it would give defenses a different look, but you are overestimating the benefit of this IMO.

What if Bama brings the house every time? Is JJ gonna throw at that point?
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27770 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:46 pm to
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One combined quarter of football out of about 12 quarters


well, Jefferson's had about 4 good quarters starting for two full seasons. Lee has played better than any QB since 2007. There is no need to screw with it. If this was needed, we would have been running the wildcat with Ware while JJ was out. It is not necessary.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23086 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

Elleshoe
Explain the negatives of JJ getting 5-6 wildcat/option snaps
We aren't going to beat a team like Alabama running the ball 35 times between the tackles. It'll be good to have a variety of looks to throw at them.

JJ ISN'T TAKING OVER AS STARTER. HE ISN'T GOING TO GET 50% OF THE SNAPS.


I wouldn't be against it.
Posted by CantonTiger128
Member since Aug 2011
1291 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:48 pm to
frick that.....if they won't a wildcat package...put someone in it that can actually run....this is retarded. JJ is NOT a good runner....he runs OKAY.....there are several i'd rather have in the wildcat. as for ztiger above...yeah....let's add a bunch of options to an offense that is clicking on all cyclinders...makes logical sense....son...one day you will have wisdom....maybe.
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