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So JJ kicked someone in the head?
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:02 pm
There are multiple ways to interpret the grand jury's indictment, but the leading explanation appears to be that the jurors concluded that JJ did in fact kick a man in the head, but didn't cause sufficient injuries to qualify as aggravated battery under the applicable Louisiana statute.
I recognize that there are other viable constructions, but let's assume the popular interpretation is correct.
Does LSU want to reinstate a QB who is facing charges, albeit misdemeanor charges, for a kicking a man in the head while that man was on the ground and arguably defenseless? Legal technicalities aside, that seems pretty damn craven to me.
I recognize that there are other viable constructions, but let's assume the popular interpretation is correct.
Does LSU want to reinstate a QB who is facing charges, albeit misdemeanor charges, for a kicking a man in the head while that man was on the ground and arguably defenseless? Legal technicalities aside, that seems pretty damn craven to me.
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:03 pm to The312
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Does LSU want to reinstate a QB who is facing charges, albeit misdemeanor charges, for a kicking a man in the head while that man was on the ground and arguably defenseless? Legal technicalities aside, that seems pretty damn craven to me.
If he is only guilty of a misdemeanor then he is only guilty of a misdemeanor.
That's all there is to it.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:04 pm to The312
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There are multiple ways to interpret the grand jury's indictment, but the leading explanation appears to be that the jurors concluded that JJ did in fact kick a man in the head, but didn't cause sufficient injuries to qualify as aggravated battery under the applicable Louisiana statute.
maybe they just concluded that Lowery got his arse beat, and JJ was likely at least one of the ppl doing the beating?
This post was edited on 9/28/11 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:04 pm to The312
It seems as though he may have just kicked him in the face, which to me isn't quite as bad.
It's probably trashier and less dignified, but at the same time, usually indicates that the person doing the kicking wasn't truly trying to kick the victim unconscious so much as just humiliate him.
It's probably trashier and less dignified, but at the same time, usually indicates that the person doing the kicking wasn't truly trying to kick the victim unconscious so much as just humiliate him.
This post was edited on 9/28/11 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:05 pm to bmy
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If he is only guilty of a misdemeanor then he is only guilty of a misdemeanor.
Right, but if the misdemeanor consists of kicking a defenseless man in head while he is on the ground, I still maintain that is pretty cowardly.
LSU's disciplinary proceedings aren't constrained by the legal categorization of JJ's transgression.
This post was edited on 9/28/11 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:06 pm to Doc Fenton
I think it means he punched him in the nose.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:08 pm to ATLTiger
There's likely not enough evidence to conclude the extent of his involvement in the harm inflicted outside of that he was involved in some manner.The prosecution have to be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was in fact the one who delivered the most violent blows, and in a situation like this with as many people involved it just seems impossible.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:08 pm to The312
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LSU's disciplinary proceedings aren't constrained by the legal categorization of JJ's transgression.
Kind of a good point. There is a lot of ways this can be interpreted so there shouldn't be any certainty that JJ is in the clear to return to the team now.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:09 pm to The312
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Does LSU want to reinstate a QB who is facing charges, albeit misdemeanor charges, for a kicking a man in the head while that man was on the ground and arguably defenseless?
PLAY HIM! SATURDAY! DO IT!
I can't stand watching the offense click anymore!!
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:09 pm to The312
He probably tried to kick him, but he came up short.....
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:11 pm to LSURussian
quote:Was trying to kick a guy about 30 yards down parking lot in stride but instead nailed a guy right in the chest about 15 yards center lot?
He probably tried to kick him, but he came up short.....
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:11 pm to DEANintheYAY
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Gawd you really are a piece of shite! I know that if I saw you on the ground I would likely kick you in the head.
duly noted
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:11 pm to The312
It doesn't mean anything close to what you're suggesting.
All the GJ has said is that isn't possible that JJ committed simple battery, and a trial should be had to flesh out the facts more.
I don't see how this says he kicked him in the head or anything of that nature. Just that simple battery may have occurred.
All the GJ has said is that isn't possible that JJ committed simple battery, and a trial should be had to flesh out the facts more.
I don't see how this says he kicked him in the head or anything of that nature. Just that simple battery may have occurred.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:12 pm to jturn17
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Just that simple battery may have occurred.
Maybe. And maybe he kicked somebody in the face. It's hard to know for sure.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:13 pm to The312
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in fact
No.
Juries determine facts.
Grand jury just determines that there is sufficient evidence to move to trial.
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Does LSU want to reinstate a QB who is facing charges, albeit misdemeanor charges, for a kicking a man in the head while that man was on the ground and arguably defenseless?
Most of the people who answer this question are blinded by their desire to see JJ never play QB for LSU ever again.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:13 pm to Doc Fenton
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It seems as though he may have just kicked him in the face, which to me isn't quite as bad.
It's probably trashier and less dignified, but at the same time, usually indicates that the person doing the kicking wasn't truly trying to kick the victim unconscious so much as just humiliate him.
I don't think this was JJ's thought process at the time
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:13 pm to DEANintheYAY
Doesn't mean anything about guilt, just that there was enough evidence presented to charge...I think thats right. Could be that it was JJ, or mistaken idenity, too. I don't think this had anything to do with Guilt.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:14 pm to The312
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concluded that JJ did in fact kick a man in the head, but didn't cause sufficient injuries to qualify as aggravated battery under the applicable Louisiana statute.
The jurors didn't conclude shite about guilt. It's a grand jury.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:14 pm to The312
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leading explanation appears to be that the jurors concluded that JJ did in fact kick a man in the head, but didn't cause sufficient injuries to qualify as aggravated battery under the applicable Louisiana statute.
You are so full of shite!! You haven't a clue.
I was always a JLee supporter, and I am supporting Jeffereson's reinstatement now. When was the last time LSU got through a season without a QB missing some time due to injury.
Anyone who thinks JJs reinstatement is detrimental to the team is clueless. We will need him at QB, and there's no telling how much.
312, IMHO, you are truly an idiot!!
Posted on 9/28/11 at 7:16 pm to TigerTailsSoup
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I don't think this was JJ's thought process at the time
I do. I can't imagine anybody kicking someone in the face as a legitimate fight move. When it's done, it's done to humiliate.
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