FSU brought down buyout, but doesn't plan on leaving?

hmmmm. yes. provocative

On a long enough time line I think FSU will end up the the SEC. The only question is how long that will take.

Since he said it wasn't going to happen so many times, should we assume it's going to happen? It's like this guy was nervous and hiding something.

a lot of spin and conspiracy theory in that article.

a) consider the source: mr.sec has been linked here before, and virtually every article from there on SEC expansion has sung the praises of bring in FSU.

b) FSU worked in conjunction with at least 2 other schools to RAISE the buyout to 20 million. Apparently some schools has suggested a $34m buyout and others a $16m buyout. The ACC settled on $20m which is a $15m increase.
To call that "bringing it down" is something of a stretch, no?

c) What else did the interviewee say? Was the quoted the ENTIRE statement? Was it in that order? Were parts left out?

I have been pretty vocal on the 'FSU isnt coming' mantra. I was told by one poster that if FSU would come out and say it, thats when they would believe it.
Well its been said, and now everyone thinks its a conspiracy theory

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b) FSU worked in conjunction with at least 2 other schools to RAISE the buyout to 20 million. Apparently some schools has suggested a $34m buyout and others a $16m buyout. The ACC settled on $20m which is a $15m increase.
To call that "bringing it down" is something of a stretch, no?

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lol a 15m increase? The ACC buyout was reported to be around 13m before the increase. And Haggard is claiming it was 16m before the increase to only 20m. It was the Big East that has the 4-5m buyout. The ACC buyout was raised at most 7m and according to this only 4m. Yet that won't stop you from claiming 20m ends all discussion of ACC schools.

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"With the new movement with the ACC, which I’m so proud of us and the ACC for expanding and we are one of the first ones to do it, and with speculation about Notre Dame and Connecticut I like were we are at right now. I don’t see any SEC possibilities. But hey, we’ll listen.”

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That's the rest of Haggard's statement. You're right I said that if FSU came out and said there's no way we're joining the SEC, then I'd believe it.. And he says that, except then he ends with "but hey, we'll listen." You can keep harping on the impossibility and zero chance, but if that's the case, why do they keep leaving the window open?

when the ACC was trying to decide on a number, 16m and 30+m were suggested. the article says fsu in conjunction with at least 2 other schools helped the ACC compromise on a buyout of $20m

you can spin that as lowering from 30 if you want, and the article certainly did. the author also has beat the fsu to sec drum quite hard. everything should be taken in context.

you are obsessed with the buyout number, you shouldnt be. there is a litany of reasons i dont believe FSU, GT, Clemson, or VT will be a part of the SEC. Some of those reasons are overlapping, some are specific to each school. either way, spinning the increase of a buyout as a reason to think FSU is moving to a new conference is silly.

as far as "why would they listen"... why wouldnt they?
what would you say the chances of ARKY moving to a new conference at the beginning of all this? zero right? that would be a reasonable assumption.
well ARKY - gasp - LISTENED to the bevo 9 earlier this month. they let them give their pitch, then flat rejected it.
why would they do this? because smart business is to never burn a bridge and always listen.

my whole point, specifically to FSU, is that the sec cannot and will not offer enough incentive for FSU to move. i am more convinced of that than ever considering the moves the ACC has made recently.