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Does anyone else hate the 3rd and 1 reputation that Ingram is getting
Posted on 9/20/11 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/20/11 at 8:48 am
It seems like this is the only time we bring him in and everyone in the stadium knows it's going to be a run. I really don't like how theyre tagging him as this short yardage back and that's all he can do. Yeah that's what's he's good at, but when the opposition knows what you're doing as soon as he steps onthe field, it's pretty easy to just stack the box.
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 8:50 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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Yeah that's what's he's good at
You sure bout that?
I agree it's the playcalling and not MI.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 8:56 am to Brettesaurus Rex
That stigma needs to be attached to Sean, not any one of our RB's.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:00 am to USLttarP
I agree that the o-line needs to actually push forward and open holes for him instead of collapsing.
I'd also like to see quick pitches to Sproles to the outside, a running back screen, and quick slants to Moore or Graham on down and short.
I'd also like to see quick pitches to Sproles to the outside, a running back screen, and quick slants to Moore or Graham on down and short.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:10 am to Brettesaurus Rex
I think it's definately the playcalling, and even more the offensive line failing miserably, more than it is Ingram. That said, any reputation, good or bad, that a rookie gets two games into his career isn't exactly fair IMO.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:35 am to USLttarP
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That stigma needs to be attached to Sean, not any one of our RB's.
agreed
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:35 am to Brettesaurus Rex
I like Ingram, but he needs to show more patience in his running. When it's short yardage, he needs to will himself a yard. Poor blocking doesn't stop great short yardage backs from getting the yard. Are they perfect? No, but mostly they get the yard. The bottom line is everyone knows the Saints brought Ingram in to get a yard. If we continue to flop on 3rd and short, fair or not, it will fall on Ingram's shoulders.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 9:37 am
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:40 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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the opposition knows what you're doing as soon as he steps onthe field, it's pretty easy to just stack the box.
To be fair, Ingram gets carries on non short yardage plays as well. Additionally, there are plenty of short yardage backs that teams stack the box on short yardage. Ingram needs to figure it out and get the yard no matter. Look at Brandon Jacobs for instance. On 3rd and short, he comes in; and the entire nation knows what is coming. Most of the time, Jacobs finds a way to get the yard.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:42 am to BCS Hater SEC Lover
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The bottom line is everyone knows the Saints brought Ingram in to get a yard.
I have to disagree wholeheartedly here.
Ingram is a complete back. Burst, quickness, power, and can catch. He's not just a pound-the-line kind of guy. To say that that's the only reason they picked him up is short-sighted, and quite dumb. That's one of the things he CAN do, but it's not the only reason they brought him in. You can't get a yard when the whole defensive line and LBers are a yard or two past the LOS. It just won't happen.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:46 am to Brettesaurus Rex
3rd and 1 is 95% offensive line, 5% running back.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:54 am to Hulkklogan
With the lockout, all rookies should get somewhat of a pass this year. Although I do think we will see Ingram breakout soon.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:33 pm to Hulkklogan
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Ingram is a complete back. Burst, quickness, power, and can catch. He's not just a pound-the-line kind of guy. To say that that's the only reason they picked him up is short-sighted, and quite dumb. That's one of the things he CAN do, but it's not the only reason they brought him in. You can't get a yard when the whole defensive line and LBers are a yard or two past the LOS. It just won't happen.
Is that why Coach Payton said after the draft, "its no secret we had trouble in short yardage last year. Mark was brought here to help in that aspect." do some research before you namecall you piece of monkey shite cocksucker. Right, ingrams such a complete back that he has the lowest YPC on the team and immediately comes in on short yardage. Don't forget the fumbles. You can't be a complete back without turning the ball over. I hope you're right but I haven't seen anything to suggest he is anything but an average short yardage back. You're just a count whose Momma didn't hold him enough as a child, therefore you have no ability to think without emotion. . I'm a Who Dat. I want him to be all pro, but I am concerned. He hasn't looked the same since the knee injury.
See how effective communication with name calling can be, prick.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:36 pm to BCS Hater SEC Lover
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He hasn't looked the same since the knee injury.
that was a minor knee injury and this is the NFL not the SEC...major upgrade in competition
Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:45 pm to BCS Hater SEC Lover
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BCS Hater SEC Lover
Dude, tone it down or you won't be around long. WTF is your problem? Back off with the unnecessary count/whore/cocksucker bullshite.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:46 pm to Hulkklogan
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You can't get a yard when the whole defensive line and LBers are a yard or two past the LOS. It just won't happen.
This doesn't stop Brandon Jacobs, Ray Rice, Michael Turner, AP, etc........
To suggest this is short sided and dumb. Are you dumb or something?
Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:47 pm to whodatfan
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Dude, tone it down or you won't be around long. WTF is your problem? Back off with the unnecessary count/whore/cocksucker bull shite.
And my life would be imcomplete without being accepted on a Message board. That fuk er started it. Don't call me dumb and I won't play hard back at u.
So just so I understand. You can call someone dumb but not a count. Plz clarify which names in the name calling belittling category are accepted. Thx in advance.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:49 pm to BCS Hater SEC Lover
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I want him to be all pro, but I am concerned.
After two fricking games. Dude, get real.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:51 pm to BCS Hater SEC Lover
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Dude, tone it down or you won't be around long. WTF is your problem? Back off with the unnecessary count/whore/cocksucker bull shite.
And my life would be imcomplete without being accepted on a Message board. That fuk er started it. Don't call me dumb and I won't play hard back at u.
So just so I understand. You can call someone dumb but not a count. Plz clarify which names in the name calling belittling category are accepted. Thx in advance.
We don't give a shite if you feel you need to be accepted. However, he said what you said was dumb, he didn't say you were dumb. You went off the deep end.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:59 pm to BCS Hater SEC Lover
His response to your post was nowhere near what you came back with. You were that but hurt over something you said being called shortsighted and dumb? He didn't call you anything. You took it to another level. You called him a cocksucker and brought his mom into the conversation. I'm no angel on this board, but this was not warranted at all.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:01 pm to whodatfan
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I'm no angel on this board,
Understatement of the year.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 2:02 pm
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