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WVU told no?
Posted on 9/18/11 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 9/18/11 at 11:13 pm
Andy_Staples Andy Staples
Because I was told no. And I trust who told me. RT @derek_calvert: Why are you saying no to WVU when several others are saying yes?
Andy_Staples Andy Staples
Yes. RT @gregrazer: Are u also being told that MIZZOU will be #14 (if Big 12 implodes)?
god i hope so.they dont do shite for the future of this conference which is the sec network. despite what thedoc keeps posting.
Because I was told no. And I trust who told me. RT @derek_calvert: Why are you saying no to WVU when several others are saying yes?
Andy_Staples Andy Staples
Yes. RT @gregrazer: Are u also being told that MIZZOU will be #14 (if Big 12 implodes)?
god i hope so.they dont do shite for the future of this conference which is the sec network. despite what thedoc keeps posting.
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Posted on 9/18/11 at 11:17 pm to lsu777
I heard that!!! Don't do shete for SEC.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 11:18 pm to RunningBlake
They'd probably be in play if things jump to 16
Posted on 9/18/11 at 11:24 pm to HMTVBrian2
if sec is going to 16 then wvu is an ok get. not good not great but not terrible. for 14th....they are terrible.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 11:46 pm to lsu777
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god i hope so.they dont do shite for the future of this conference which is the sec network. despite what thedoc keeps posting.
Of available teams, WVu is as viable as anyone. I have been on the Mizzou bandwagon for a long time, but WVU offers as much in the way of competitive athletics as Mizzou. Mizzou football doesn't have a huge fan base.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 11:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
MO = St. Louis/Kansas City
WVU = Charleston/Huntington
WVU = Charleston/Huntington
Posted on 9/18/11 at 11:54 pm to lsu777
I think you read that wrong. Andy Staples was told no, not WVU.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 11:57 pm to RummelTiger
quote:
MO = St. Louis/Kansas City
WVU = Charleston/Huntington
Understandable, but I will bet you that WVU has more national interest in it's football program than Mizzou. Don't get me wrong, I wanted Mizzou along with A&M, but for people who think that WVU isn't bringing any viewers to the conference, they are dead wrong.
Posted on 9/18/11 at 11:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
I have been on the Mizzou bandwagon for a long time, but WVU offers as much in the way of competitive athletics as Mizzou.
+1
WVU fans want the SEC. Mizzou fans cannot decide. Mizzou brings more to the table in terms of TV sets, but WVU is surely as respectable in athletics, if not more so, and I sense that they know what they want.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:15 am to RhodeIslandRed
WVU:
good football
good basketball
good academics
national branding
good football
good basketball
good academics
national branding
Posted on 9/19/11 at 6:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:+1
I will bet you that WVU has more national interest in it's football program than Mizzou. Don't get me wrong, I wanted Mizzou along with A&M, but for people who think that WVU isn't bringing any viewers to the conference, they are dead wrong.
Besides, what the OP looks like to me is a couple of probably tweeted sentence fragments that make no sense and are probably taken out of context anyway. Plus that poster seems to be on a one-person rampage along here to sabotage or block WVU as a new member of the SEC. And for no clearly good reason that I can see.
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 6:16 am
Posted on 9/19/11 at 6:27 am to JawjaTigah
Im hopin for wva
Posted on 9/19/11 at 6:29 am to RummelTiger
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Posted by RummelTiger
MO = St. Louis/Kansas City
WVU = Charleston/Huntington
WVU is also a Pittsburgh draw.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 6:55 am to TriumphTiger
And dc
Posted on 9/19/11 at 7:59 am to Wolf Shirt
WVU also sits in a state with less then 2 million people. When the SEC creates a network this is very important. The B1G get $.85 for subscribers that live in a state with a current B1G school and only $.15 for those in states without.
With the B1G network being on most cable packages now and on all sat. packages this is an ectremely important aspect that is being overlooked.
TheDoc I wish that you would respond to my other thread.
With the B1G network being on most cable packages now and on all sat. packages this is an ectremely important aspect that is being overlooked.
TheDoc I wish that you would respond to my other thread.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:06 am to lsu777
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WVU also sits in a state with less then 2 million people.
We've already discussed this. WVU has markets in several states with millions of people.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:32 am to lsu777
Your attempts to talk shite on WVU are pathetic
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:38 am to Wolf Shirt
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And dc
I live in DC. Because of the nature of my work, I am on the phone with different people around here all day every day (on hold as I am typing this). I talk a lot of sports and visit a lot of sports bars. No one in DC or the MD/VA burbs gives 2 fricks about WVU.
Mizzou is a tremendous addition for the SEC in terms of media markets and this whole mess is about nothing but money.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of WVU, and I agree that they would bring their fair share of viewers, but I think the SEC would look at MO harder due to the fact that it's 'new' territory.
The SEC needs no help with viewers in DC, or Charlotte, but to go into Big 12 territory and pull those viewers/buyers over in cities like St. Louis/KC/Chicago? would be huge.
I think it's somewhat similar to the argument for TCU. Is TCU that great of an overall program, no. But they're in DFW, so...
The SEC needs no help with viewers in DC, or Charlotte, but to go into Big 12 territory and pull those viewers/buyers over in cities like St. Louis/KC/Chicago? would be huge.
I think it's somewhat similar to the argument for TCU. Is TCU that great of an overall program, no. But they're in DFW, so...
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:43 am to StraightCashHomey21
im not talking shite to WVU, its economics 101. If $ was not a factor they would be in my top 1-2 to be team #14. I really like what they bring to the table, I believe like Doc does that they bring a national brand.
But as Ive explained to DOC, though he refuses to acknowledge it as being true, the future of the SEC is in a SEC network. Its why despite having smaller TV contracts and an inferior product the B1G makes over 5 million more per year per school then the SEC.
B1G network gets $.85 for every subscriber in states whihc have an existing member and only $.15 for those in states without a member. Its this model that the SEC will use in the future. There for its important that new members come from populous states that do not currently have an existing member.
Im sorry bringing in WVU is not gonna get the sec the premium royalty in PA, DC or Virginia. It just want and it sucks for WVU, but its the way things are. If it was a viable possibility I would be all for WVU as they fit perfect other wise and would help our big CBS contract.
Also Im not convinced WVU can bring in $45 million extra per year for the SEC even if a future SEC network is not driving this. If WVU can't atleast bring that much($20 mill for WVU and $2mill for existing schools) then why would an exisitng member vote for them? Adding anything less then $2 million per member per year is not even worth expanding for.
Do you believe WVU can bring in 45 million per year extra?
Doc please answer that question also.
And DOC you still havent answered me on if you think a Future SEC network is driving these talks which is where the real money is.If you do believe that it is then how can you not agree with my other post which proves that an SEC network is the future and schools in populous states are the key to future financial growth?
But as Ive explained to DOC, though he refuses to acknowledge it as being true, the future of the SEC is in a SEC network. Its why despite having smaller TV contracts and an inferior product the B1G makes over 5 million more per year per school then the SEC.
B1G network gets $.85 for every subscriber in states whihc have an existing member and only $.15 for those in states without a member. Its this model that the SEC will use in the future. There for its important that new members come from populous states that do not currently have an existing member.
Im sorry bringing in WVU is not gonna get the sec the premium royalty in PA, DC or Virginia. It just want and it sucks for WVU, but its the way things are. If it was a viable possibility I would be all for WVU as they fit perfect other wise and would help our big CBS contract.
Also Im not convinced WVU can bring in $45 million extra per year for the SEC even if a future SEC network is not driving this. If WVU can't atleast bring that much($20 mill for WVU and $2mill for existing schools) then why would an exisitng member vote for them? Adding anything less then $2 million per member per year is not even worth expanding for.
Do you believe WVU can bring in 45 million per year extra?
Doc please answer that question also.
And DOC you still havent answered me on if you think a Future SEC network is driving these talks which is where the real money is.If you do believe that it is then how can you not agree with my other post which proves that an SEC network is the future and schools in populous states are the key to future financial growth?
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