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My 16 team SEC scheduling idea
Posted on 9/8/11 at 9:55 am
Posted on 9/8/11 at 9:55 am
Take it for what it's worth, just an idea if the a 16 team SEC conference is born. For purposes of this post, lets call it the SEC-16.
1.Stick with the even divisions (8 teams in each) for purposes of SEC-16 CG only.
2. Have a permanent partner opponent in your division. (Ex: LSU-TAMU, Arky-MO, OM-MissSt, Bama-Auby, Fla-FlaSt, Tenn-Vandy, KY-WV, GA-SC).
3. Play your partner opponent every year, ideally Thanksgiving. You'll read why this is important at the end of this post. (1 Game)
4. Of the other 6 in your division, alternate them 3 and 3. Essentially, play half two years (home and home) and the other half two years (home and home). (3 games per year)
5. Of the 8 in the other division, alternate them 4 and 4. Again, play half two years (home and home), and the other half two years (home and home), alternating. (4 games per year)
This totals 8 conference games, rotates teams through the conference evenly, and allows a player to see every SEC-16 venue in his four year career. It also keeps the conference games at 8, allowing four non-conference games per year.
An example SEC-16 schedule:
LSU years 1&2 (home and home):
Ole Miss
Auby
Arkansas
--------
GA
Tenn
KY
FLA
-------
TAMU
LSU years 3&4 (home and home):
Miss St
Bama
MO
-------
SC
Vandy
WV
FlaSt
-------
TAMU
In this format, you play a team two years, then play their partner opponent two years. Home games are split evenly with road games for everyone. This is a way to prevent a situation where inter-division schools see each other only once in eight years.
Concerning big rivalries, some of which are going to be lost regardless in a 16 team conference, this keeps them at least for two games every four years. Yes, LSU might not see Bama or Florida every year, but they will, at least, see them twice in four years.
Concerning a division leader to go the SEC-16 CG, you don't see everyone in your division every year, BUT your partner opponent will see the teams you don't see. This will set up potential big games Thanksgiving weekend where a clear division winner is crowned and sent to the SEC-16 CG.
Again, this is just a thought.
1.Stick with the even divisions (8 teams in each) for purposes of SEC-16 CG only.
2. Have a permanent partner opponent in your division. (Ex: LSU-TAMU, Arky-MO, OM-MissSt, Bama-Auby, Fla-FlaSt, Tenn-Vandy, KY-WV, GA-SC).
3. Play your partner opponent every year, ideally Thanksgiving. You'll read why this is important at the end of this post. (1 Game)
4. Of the other 6 in your division, alternate them 3 and 3. Essentially, play half two years (home and home) and the other half two years (home and home). (3 games per year)
5. Of the 8 in the other division, alternate them 4 and 4. Again, play half two years (home and home), and the other half two years (home and home), alternating. (4 games per year)
This totals 8 conference games, rotates teams through the conference evenly, and allows a player to see every SEC-16 venue in his four year career. It also keeps the conference games at 8, allowing four non-conference games per year.
An example SEC-16 schedule:
LSU years 1&2 (home and home):
Ole Miss
Auby
Arkansas
--------
GA
Tenn
KY
FLA
-------
TAMU
LSU years 3&4 (home and home):
Miss St
Bama
MO
-------
SC
Vandy
WV
FlaSt
-------
TAMU
In this format, you play a team two years, then play their partner opponent two years. Home games are split evenly with road games for everyone. This is a way to prevent a situation where inter-division schools see each other only once in eight years.
Concerning big rivalries, some of which are going to be lost regardless in a 16 team conference, this keeps them at least for two games every four years. Yes, LSU might not see Bama or Florida every year, but they will, at least, see them twice in four years.
Concerning a division leader to go the SEC-16 CG, you don't see everyone in your division every year, BUT your partner opponent will see the teams you don't see. This will set up potential big games Thanksgiving weekend where a clear division winner is crowned and sent to the SEC-16 CG.
Again, this is just a thought.
Posted on 9/8/11 at 9:56 am to jbraua
auburn-uga and uga-uf can't split
how do you determine tiebreaks if you don't play everyone in your own division? sounds like a recipe for disaster
how do you determine tiebreaks if you don't play everyone in your own division? sounds like a recipe for disaster
This post was edited on 9/8/11 at 10:01 am
Posted on 9/8/11 at 10:01 am to jbraua
I like this idea since you get to play everyone home-and-home over four years.
But how you determine a tie-breaker?
But how you determine a tie-breaker?
Posted on 9/8/11 at 10:01 am to baytiger
Why have divisions at all in this example? What is the point of having 2 divisions, if you don't [play them every year. This would cause imbalance. Divisions are flawed. In order for a Div Champ to play in the Conf Champ, he should have played all teams in his Conf.
Posted on 9/8/11 at 5:20 pm to jbraua
I would do it like the NFL where there would be 4 divisions with 4 teams apiece. You play everyone in your division each year. Then each team plays 2 schools from each division. Roatimg based on last years records. If you came in 4th last year you play 3 fourth and 3 1st place teams, etc.. I know this is a 9 game conference schedule. The dynamic schedule will create great matchups and competitive games for everyone.
This post was edited on 9/8/11 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 9/8/11 at 5:24 pm to jbraua
it just seems to me if you have 16 team conferences, with the scheduling limitations you really have two 8 team conferences with just an agreed first round playoff game for the "larger" conference championship. Why bother?
Posted on 9/8/11 at 5:38 pm to rocket31
quote:can't the same be said about a 12 team conference?
it just seems to me if you have 16 team conferences, with the scheduling limitations you really have two 8 team conferences with just an agreed first round playoff game for the "larger" conference championship. Why bother?
Posted on 9/8/11 at 7:13 pm to baytiger
quote:
can't the same be said about a 12 team conference?
...no?
Posted on 9/8/11 at 7:23 pm to rocket31
it's 2 6 teams leagues with a shared championship...
but yeah, 16 teams and 2 divisions is stupid.. 4 divisions is the right way to do 16 teams
but yeah, 16 teams and 2 divisions is stupid.. 4 divisions is the right way to do 16 teams
This post was edited on 9/8/11 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 9/8/11 at 7:31 pm to jbraua
quote:
Concerning a division leader to go the SEC-16 CG, you don't see everyone in your division every year,
NO-
When a team can go undefeated in SEC play and not make the SEC title game is stupid idea.
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:42 pm to jbraua
My idea would be to just play the 7 other teams in your conference. Then have a mini 2-game playoff of sorts with every 2 seeds in the division against the other division. So you have division A and B. So 1A, 2A and 1B, 2B would play. 3A, 4A and 3B, 4B would play. Etc. The play would be 1A vs 2B and 2A vs 1B. Winner against winner. Loser against loser. So thats 9 games. The other 3 games you would play any teams you want not in your division, even those in the other division to keep traditional rivalries around. Those games would not count in seeding the divisions. you would get rid of the conference championship game. Ideally we are left with 4 of these 16 team divisions. So the winners of each Conference play in a 4 team playoff. #winning
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