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Listening to Ungelsby last night, shite's gonna get real...

Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:09 am
Posted by MightierThePenIs
Member since Jan 2008
1510 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:09 am
This is my paraphrase but it's exactly the scenario he painted:

He's gonna push through the University to get JJ reinstated regardless of the havoc it would create.

He mentioned he has no experience in what to do in order to get JJ back onto the team, but that he was gonna do everything he could to get it done and that there had to be some University process through which it is done.

If you thought it was over and we were just playing football, think again.

Stay tuned.

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21020 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:11 am to
This would all be settled if the real kicker would come forward. I think it would be more disturbing to find out that the players were covering for someone and letting JJ take the fall.
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
7050 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:12 am to
Unless the charges are dropped, I don't see how he could convince LSU to reinstate JJ. I'm not even sure I would want them to with felony charges pending against him.
Posted by MightierThePenIs
Member since Jan 2008
1510 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:12 am to
Good point.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39942 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:13 am to
quote:

He's gonna push through the University to get JJ reinstated regardless of the havoc it would create


This worries me as the team/coaches do not need any further distractions or negative publicity for LSU in general.

I agree with the suspension for now ... and he can't legally make the university do anything can he? What == will he sue LSU? I'm sure there are precedents out there that will say suspend until the legal side is over.

?????
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39942 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:13 am to
quote:

This would all be settled if the real kicker would come forward. I think it would be more disturbing to find out that the players were covering for someone and letting JJ take the fall.


x 1 million bajillion

(eta: anyone think JJ is really taking the fall? I don't know if I could do that unless he's counting on this really going away but I don't know how any time soon)
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 10:14 am
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13880 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:14 am to
Hopefully clearing JJ of the charges is his first priority. I don't think he should be so concerned with his position on the team right now. If the university says no, then that's the way it should be. Pressuring LSU to allow him back on the team is not a good move IMO.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11942 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:14 am to
They need to let this go through the legal channels. JJ can still redshirt if he is found not guilty.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:15 am to
You don't know for sure that JJ wasn't the person kicking the guy. And I'm sure the players werent covering for anyone else to get Jefferson in trouble.

And if you do know for sure it wasn't JJ doing the kicking then why haven't you stood up and went to the police yet?

Idiotic post.
Posted by MightierThePenIs
Member since Jan 2008
1510 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:15 am to
Ungelsby's point was there it no time for a normal process to occur here.

That by the time a normal process occurred, JJ wouldn't even be arraigned until the season is almost over.

That that costs him his shot at his future earning potential.

There's just a lot of chaos an aggressive atty, pushed by a selfish client, can make here.

And that's before you pull out the first race card, which will definitely be dropped at some point as this unfolds.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7710 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:18 am to
If he insists on doing that, I hope LSU says "fine, JJ's not suspended, but he's not starting until the issue is resolved".
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81409 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:20 am to
quote:

I think it would be more disturbing to find out that the players were covering for someone and letting JJ take the fall.


geeez. Nothing is ever JJ's fault.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:21 am to
quote:

If you thought it was over and we were just playing football, think again.


Anyone who thought it was over is retarded. If he was dismissed, it would be over. He wasn't. Miles even said that they hadn't yet decided to exclude them from practice and travel. This will be a topic of interest/concern until they are cleared and reinstated, or dismissed from the program.

Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:22 am to
I disagree with your assessment of what Unglesby said. He said getting JJ reinstated would not involve legal action. He said that would be out of the question. He was pretty much saying he had to find out how to go about doing it through discussion with the university and Les Miles. He was asked directly if he would pursue legal action to get JJ reinstated and he stressed that was not an option. If he takes that off the table I would hardly say he would do anything to get him playing again. He sounded like he would just have discussions not create havoc.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:22 am to
quote:

That that costs him his shot at his future earning potential.



only if you can show he was going to make that money.

JJ was NEVER going to make the draft based on his play up to this point.

Sorry.
Posted by BayouBengalinBama
Member since Jul 2005
4398 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:23 am to
I'm certain there is nothing Ungelsby would be able to do.....scholarships can be revoked for just about anything. This could become a major distraction and I would hope this guy would not allow this to happen...I think this would get rather ugly quick!
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37865 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Ungelsby's point was there it no time for a normal process to occur here.

That by the time a normal process occurred, JJ wouldn't even be arraigned until the season is almost over.


Then don't get in a bar fight.
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:24 am to
quote:

He sounded like he would just have discussions not create havoc.
This is the rant. People hear only hear, say, believe in havoc.
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
11362 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:24 am to
I think at this point Jefferson would have rated out the real kicker
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21953 posts
Posted on 8/27/11 at 10:24 am to
Maybe try to sue LSU I don't think he has the grownds to as with these scholarships there are behavioral stipulations and I am sure there is a clause saying the school or HC could dismiss the player for behavioral issues
We will see in any case it won't happen over night
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 10:25 am
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