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Changing my residence to Tennessee (so I don't have to pay state tax)

Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:59 pm
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26715 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:59 pm
Do you have to go through the DMV to do this? I'd assume that is the easiest way.

I don't actually care about getting Tennessee residence. I just do not want Louisiana income tax taken out of my paycheck. On my W4 and I9 I put my new Tennessee address but I've heard that is not enough to avoid paying Louisiana taxes.

Any advice?

FWIW I just moved here a week ago to start work.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26715 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:11 pm to
Holy shite.

So I have to go BACK to Louisiana and provide them with documentation too, and then cannot get away from them until January.

Lynx and Redstick did yall look into this yet too?


Thanks for your help.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26715 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:21 pm to
Yep it sure does. I actually filled out two W4s. One when I got the offer letter (in April) and another five days ago. The first one had my LA address. The second one had my new TN address. So I need to go talk to payroll tomorrow.

Also, I just want to give a big frick you to the state of Louisiana. This will cost me a few grand.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26715 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:22 pm to
Is there a chance that I could fly under the radar in Louisiana if they aren't aware that I'm working?
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 11:23 pm
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38421 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 7:26 am to
Just wanted to throw my two cents in...

My dad has done this for over 10 years. We live about 60 miles from the Tennessee line but around 2000 he bought a few acres and stuck a dilapidated trailer on it. All his mail is sent there and he was told that if your mail goes there you will be fine. They don't know where you are living....


He makes in excess of $400,000 a year so I imagine it saves him quite a bit....
Posted by BrandNew
Member since Aug 2010
330 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 8:29 am to
I love the tax cheats we have around here. Really sad, especially when it is on the state level where you have more say on the spending of your tax revenues.

To OP, the Dept of Revenue has a tendency to scrutinize any change in residency from one tax year to the next. So it will depend on the money at issue as to whether they might audit you.
Posted by MightierThePenIs
Member since Jan 2008
1510 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 10:22 am to
Just take a hint out of the Rahm Emanual School of Residency.

It doesn't matter where you actually live, just where you say you do.

Well, if you're part of the ruling class that is.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26715 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 4:53 pm to
How is this really sad? NONE of my income will be from working in Louisiana. I started last week in TN but am still legally binded to LA tax for the entire year. That doesn't seem fair to me.
This post was edited on 7/18/11 at 4:56 pm
Posted by BrandNew
Member since Aug 2010
330 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 5:46 pm to
The sad comment was directed at the poster to whom I responded and his tax cheat father.

It does suck that you're considered a resident for a whole year is you reside there for more than half the year, but it is an arbitrary rule of administrative ease to prove taxing jurisdiction.

FYI the US attempts to do the same thing to foreigners present in the US for more than half the year.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26715 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 6:01 pm to
Ah my bad. I recognize the law, and will abide by it, but I feel I have the right to vent considering I never even worked in Louisiana.
Posted by BrandNew
Member since Aug 2010
330 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 6:34 pm to
Hypothetically speaking, if you were a resident for less than 6 months, you could just file a part-year resident return. Here is the Revenue Ruling on how to complete a return as a part-year resident: LINK

As an aside, how many students do you think file documentation showing change in residency when they take full-time jobs in TX after graduating from LSU and having lived in La their entire lives?
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26715 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

As an aside, how many students do you think file documentation showing change in residency when they take full-time jobs in TX after graduating from LSU and having lived in La their entire lives?



Not very many at all, because it's an annoying and tedious process, but they are still out a couple thousand dollars at the end of the year, just like I will be.

Thanks for that link, I appreciate it. I'll have to sift through it and then ask my dad's CPA.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38421 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

The sad comment was directed at the poster to whom I responded and his tax cheat father.


My dad wanted me to tell you to....













Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26715 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25013 posts
Posted on 7/19/11 at 12:00 am to
I've ;ived in TN for four years...I should be exempt. I have never had an issue with LA taxes.

I'll have tax forms from every state I work this year--thats where I get unlucky.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 7/19/11 at 12:02 am to
I'm going to have to worry about this as well, though I don't have the time to right now. Looks like LA is going to stick it to me for a little bit.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 7/19/11 at 11:43 am to
Where will you reside, and where do you perform services for your employer? Those are the only two factors that matter. The state you actually reside in will be able to tax your income as a resident. The state you perform the services in will be able to tax you on the income earned in that state. If they are both the same, then you have no problems. You just file a resident tax return for that state.

However, if the states are different, then you will need to file a non-resident return for the state in which you earn income, but do not reside. You will also have to file a return for the state you reside in, but you will be able to claim a credit for any taxes you pay to other states.

The state you reside in is taxing you to provide services to the residents of the state. If you feel the taxes are too high, then seek to have them reduced. Don't try and evade them by fraudulently claiming you reside elsewhere.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26715 posts
Posted on 7/19/11 at 5:00 pm to
I am residing in Tennessee and working in Tennessee. The only connection to Louisiana I have is that my permanent address was there until last week, when I started working. My W4 says I live in Louisiana, but apparently to establish a new residency you have to provide documentation to Louisiana that you moved away, even though I never made income in LA in the first place.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 7/19/11 at 7:30 pm to
You can establish proof of domicile in Tennessee with bills in your name for electical or telephone service at a Tennessee address. Getting a drivers license and registering your vehicles in Tennessee is also valid evidence that your residence transferred to Tennessee.
Posted by tigers444
Member since Jun 2009
3096 posts
Posted on 7/19/11 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

Poodlebrain

Going through this too. Thanks for the info.
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