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Dove Dog
Posted on 7/11/11 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 7/11/11 at 4:11 pm
Looking to get my boy a retriever. He and I dove hunt A LOT. Last year we really had a hard time finding birds in the millet we were shooting in. I'd love for him to have a dog he can take anywhere and also hunt with. I know lab is going to be the standard answer to this question, but are there any other breeds I should consider?
Thanks,
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Posted on 7/11/11 at 4:12 pm to Aubie Spr96
golden retrievers are good.
Posted on 7/11/11 at 4:19 pm to Aubie Spr96
You got to be careful dove hunting w/ a dog, especially the first split. You need to hunt somewhere that has lots of shade and water. You can kill one quick if you don't watch it.
That said, get a lab. I've got a yellow lab and a golden. The lab stays way cooler than the swamp collie.
That said, get a lab. I've got a yellow lab and a golden. The lab stays way cooler than the swamp collie.
This post was edited on 7/11/11 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 7/11/11 at 5:07 pm to Aubie Spr96
A britney...makes a really good field dog as well as good with families as well. Since you said you were looking for something differnet than a lab.
Posted on 7/11/11 at 5:58 pm to LSUballs
quote:That is exactly what came to my mind reading his post and with dove season approaching.
You got to be careful dove hunting w/ a dog, especially the first split. You need to hunt somewhere that has lots of shade and water.
I got to where I wouldn't even bring mine for the first split. Even if you don't kill them it's hard on them and borderline cruelty imo.
This post was edited on 7/11/11 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 7/11/11 at 6:22 pm to Geauxtiga
Early season dove hunting for me is sitting under a shade tree early in the am and late in the evening working birds 2 and from water and food sources. Most dogs should be able to handle this type of hunting.
Posted on 7/11/11 at 6:35 pm to TexasTiger
quote:Morning hunts are over before the sun rises. Around here anyway.
Early season dove hunting for me is sitting under a shade tree early in the am
quote:Late in the evening they're going to roost, no?
and late in the evening working birds 2 and from water and food sources. Most dogs should be able to handle this type of hunting.
Regardless, I didn't think anyone hunted them while they were staging but even so, opening weekend it doesn't open til noon and I've seen MANY a dog in the fields well before and long after.
This post was edited on 7/11/11 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 7/11/11 at 6:38 pm to TexasTiger
Labs are the best, also for the type of hunting you will be doing I would try to find a small female, big dogs tend to over heat quicker
Posted on 7/11/11 at 6:39 pm to Aubie Spr96
As people know on here, I am attached to labs. BUT if I were to think of another retriever, I would seriously consider a Boykin Spaniel. Great small retrievers that are wonderful pets.
Posted on 7/11/11 at 7:47 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
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Boykin Spaniel
Anyone have an experience with these? This breed has popped up a couple of times in my research.
Posted on 7/11/11 at 7:49 pm to TexasTiger
A buddy of mine who doesn't hunt a whole lot got a Britney looking bird dog to use a a retriever. Kinda looks like a overgrowed Cocker Spaniel. He sent it to school and everything. We gave him a fair amount of shite when he brought it out to a dove hunt last year. Then the dog proceeded to pick up 30 doves without a mistake. The little bastard is a machine..
Posted on 7/11/11 at 8:49 pm to LSUballs
plenty of water, make sure the dog gets plenty of water.
Posted on 7/11/11 at 9:15 pm to Aubie Spr96
Guy I hunt with has 2 boykins he is sold on the breed. But he doesn't duck or goose hunt with his. Doves..quail..and chuckers mostly.
Posted on 7/11/11 at 10:36 pm to Aubie Spr96
I would recommend either a britney spaniel or a german shorthaired pointer....I have hunted a good bit with both breeds and would be comfortable recommending either....
also, when in eastern europe, I noticed that they do quite a bit of bird hunting and their go-to breed is called a vizsla...very well-mannered retriever/bird dogs with a great nose that I liked a lot...a little small for duck dog, but would be perfect for dove and quail....if I got a dog at this point, I think this is what it would be....here's a pic of one...
also, when in eastern europe, I noticed that they do quite a bit of bird hunting and their go-to breed is called a vizsla...very well-mannered retriever/bird dogs with a great nose that I liked a lot...a little small for duck dog, but would be perfect for dove and quail....if I got a dog at this point, I think this is what it would be....here's a pic of one...
This post was edited on 7/11/11 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 7/12/11 at 8:27 am to Aubie Spr96
quote:
Anyone have an experience with these?
I have never owned one, but have hunted with one many times. (Both upland and duck hunting) They are awesome little dogs. Great hunters and very good pets. They are smaller than labs, much smaller, but I wouldn't let that bother me. If I hunted in the marsh thats the dog I would own.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 8:54 am to Spankum
quote:
german shorthaired pointer
I don't think you can beat the versatility of a german shorthaired pointer. They can hunt anything and make great pets.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 9:25 am to Aubie Spr96
quote:
I don't think you can beat the versatility of a german shorthaired pointer. They can hunt anything and make great pets.
This.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 10:51 am to Aubie Spr96
Go buy you one of these and bury it in your dove field. You and your dog are going to have a place to cool off and it can also serve as a drinking pond for doves.
The pool not the sign, although it really is unbeatable when your sitting in a pool shooting doves, drinking ice cold beer.
To stay on topic, I always was interested in a Novia Scotia duck tolling retriever.
This post was edited on 7/12/11 at 10:54 am
Posted on 7/12/11 at 11:40 am to CootKilla
The problem with the non-retriever breeds(boykins,GSP's,Brits,weims,vislas etc.)is in finding quality stock. Its pretty easy to find a great lab/chessie/golden around here. I have several training partners with tremendous labs with Grand and Master titles alike. The breeding pool (for quality) gets increasingly smaller when you venture off to the other breeds. I have seen some great boykins,brits, and GSP's but they were mostly from other parts of the country, so getting a quality pup would mean much more time searching and travel or flight expenses to pick it up.I have worked with 2 vislas and a weim, and i didn't care for either for a retriever. In my experience, I find retrievers (labs,goldens,chessies) do better at upland bird hunting, than upland bird dogs do at retrieving.
That said; for a good utility retriever that's NOT a lab, I'd go with a GSP or a Boykin. Boykin if you do more duck hunting, GSP if you do more dove/upland hunting.
That said; for a good utility retriever that's NOT a lab, I'd go with a GSP or a Boykin. Boykin if you do more duck hunting, GSP if you do more dove/upland hunting.
This post was edited on 7/12/11 at 11:44 am
Posted on 7/12/11 at 11:52 am to KJS
quote:
The problem with the non-retriever breeds(boykins,GSP's,Brits,weims,vislas etc.)is in finding quality stock. Its pretty easy to find a great lab/chessie/golden around here.
Very true. All the Boykins I have hunted over have come from the East. But then again, I have hunted with dogs that have been bought from another country.
Bottom line is that sometimes you have to buy from far away to get the stock you want.
Best of luck.
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