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Sean Payton era RBs chosen in the 1st round.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 10:16 am
Posted on 4/29/11 at 10:16 am
I hate to start another Ingram thread, but I just wanted to point something out.
2006
Reggie Bush - 2
Laurence Maroney - 21
DeAngelo Williams - 27
Joe Addai - 30
2007
All Day - 7
Marshawn Lynch - 12
2008
Darren Mcfadden - 4
Jonathan Stewart - 13
Felix Jones - 22
Rashard Mendenhall - 23
Chris Johnson - 24
2009
Knowshon Moreno - 12
Donald Brown - 27
Beanie Wells - 31
2010
CJ Spiller - 9
Ryan Matthews - 12
Jahvid Best - 30
Most posters here would have salivated on most of these 1st rounders had the Saints been able to take them. Why the hate for Ingram??
2006
Reggie Bush - 2
Laurence Maroney - 21
DeAngelo Williams - 27
Joe Addai - 30
2007
All Day - 7
Marshawn Lynch - 12
2008
Darren Mcfadden - 4
Jonathan Stewart - 13
Felix Jones - 22
Rashard Mendenhall - 23
Chris Johnson - 24
2009
Knowshon Moreno - 12
Donald Brown - 27
Beanie Wells - 31
2010
CJ Spiller - 9
Ryan Matthews - 12
Jahvid Best - 30
Most posters here would have salivated on most of these 1st rounders had the Saints been able to take them. Why the hate for Ingram??
Posted on 4/29/11 at 10:20 am to SaintEB
Good point, didn't realize how many successful 1st round runningbacks there have been recently
Posted on 4/29/11 at 10:20 am to SaintEB
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Why the hate for Ingram??
because most people are stupid.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 10:25 am to josh336
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Good point, didn't realize how many successful 1st round runningbacks there have been recently
Could we have gotten someone good enough later? Probably. But why not pull the trigger on this?
Thats why I don't have a huge issue with the Falcons trade for Julio. They were 13-3, division winners, #1 seed and felt they were missing a WR to help get over the top. Why not try to win now?
The Saints have the same window where they are very close to going back to the Super Bowl. I am on board here and will never waiver.
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 10:26 am
Posted on 4/29/11 at 10:30 am to SaintEB
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Could we have gotten someone good enough later? Probably. But why not pull the trigger on this?
because of what you just said
Posted on 4/29/11 at 10:35 am to josh336
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because of what you just said
I understand that, but Ingram was the best RB, by far, on the board and a steal at 28. If he pans out, then its a steal at 28 + 56 + next years 1. Its a game of chance....and I like the chance.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 10:55 am to SaintEB
What the bleep! A TD post that changed my mind; with actual facts; and loaded with reason.
Nicely done sir.
I had to ask myself, would I give up next year's first round draft choice for:
Nicely done sir.
I had to ask myself, would I give up next year's first round draft choice for:
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DeAngelo Williams - 27
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Marshawn Lynch - 12
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Rashard Mendenhall - 23
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Chris Johnson - 24
Posted on 4/29/11 at 11:30 am to SaintEB
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Why the hate for Ingram??
Arian Foster, Peirre Thomas, Chris Ivory all undrafted FA.
J Charles, 3rd rounder, Micheal Turner 5th rounder.
Lesure, Williams, Hunter, Lewis, Rodgers, Ridley all available.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 11:31 am to Choctaw
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because most people are stupid.
That's exactly why people get excited about skill position players they know. Tell me how Ingram will do better than Arian Foster, who was undrafted, did last year?
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 11:32 am
Posted on 4/29/11 at 11:32 am to H-Town Tiger
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Arian Foster, Peirre Thomas, Chris Ivory all undrafted FA.
J Charles, 3rd rounder, Micheal Turner 5th rounder.
Lesure, Williams, Hunter, Lewis, Rodgers, Ridley all available.
I guess my point was how many of those 1st rounders are complete busts? How many other 3rds or 5ths aren't in the league? How many undrafted guys don't make it? The odds are better for the 1st rounder. Just saying.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:32 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Lesure, Williams, Hunter, Lewis, Rodgers, Ridley all available.
Are all of these guys going to succeed? If not which ones will?
What round would you have drafted each of these guys?
Posted on 4/29/11 at 12:45 pm to H-Town Tiger
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That's exactly why people get excited about skill position players they know. Tell me how Ingram will do better than Arian Foster, who was undrafted, did last year?
Foster would have been drafted high, his last season at UT he didn't play much.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:09 pm to H-Town Tiger
I think the point is that, while you can occasionally find the Pierre Thomases and Chris Ivorys of the world amongst undrafted free agents, your odds are a ton better dealing with first-rounders. They've been solid recently.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:10 pm to SaintEB
The most successful guys on that list all run sub 4.4s... Are any of those guys 4.6+
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:13 pm to PrimetimeDaBoss
The Saints fanbase in AL was already pretty big and with the Ingram pick, it just grew in a hurry.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:14 pm to PrimetimeDaBoss
All of the guys listed above run below a 4.6 40. That's the difference.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 1:36 pm to H-Town Tiger
Arian Foster, Peirre Thomas, Chris Ivory all undrafted FA.
Two of the above players were evaluated and picked up by the same guys that evaluated and picked up Ingram.
J Charles, 3rd rounder, Micheal Turner 5th rounder.
Everyone knows that you can draft a running back in any round you chose too.
Lesure, Williams, Hunter, Lewis, Rodgers, Ridley all available
Really?
Available to whom? I for one don't have a crystal ball that can predict with such certainty which RB's may or may not be available.
At least we know of one that is not
Two of the above players were evaluated and picked up by the same guys that evaluated and picked up Ingram.
J Charles, 3rd rounder, Micheal Turner 5th rounder.
Everyone knows that you can draft a running back in any round you chose too.
Lesure, Williams, Hunter, Lewis, Rodgers, Ridley all available
Really?
Available to whom? I for one don't have a crystal ball that can predict with such certainty which RB's may or may not be available.
At least we know of one that is not
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