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seriously, what are the panthers thinking?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:19 pm
how does drafting a run first QB with less than 300 career passes and multiple maturity issues, with a rookie defensive minded head coach, a year after you picked a QB in the second round 1st overall sound like a good idea????!!! especially if you find out clausen really does suck, you'd have LUCK in your lap next year? unreal brothers and MARK THE DRIVEMANS WORDSm: canny cam will not be the opening day starter in 2016
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:27 pm to death valley driver
I don't think Newton will work out either. The risk is worth the reward though. There are no cannot miss prospects at other positions worth no 1 overall pick money (ie pp7 is a cannot miss prospect but no cb should get that kind of money).
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:31 pm to death valley driver
I think you draft Von Miller and be done with it.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:35 pm to death valley driver
I mean you just cant pass on icons/entertainers with average accuracy in a non spread offense
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:35 pm to CunningLinguist
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ie pp7 is a cannot miss prospect but no cb should get that kind of money
so you would rather throw money at a maybe prospect, at best... rather than overpay a player you are sure is gonna be really good?
that makes no sense. miller, dareus, pp7, aj green are all superior players to cam and have low bust possibility.
take ANY of those players over cam. especially if you drafted a QB last year in the top 40 picks.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:41 pm to jcole4lsu
JMO and a lot of poorly run teams seem to have the opposite philosophy
Your first (and probably second) round pick should be as safe of a pick as possible... unless you are picking near the end of the first round and a top five talent drops into your lap... just take the safest player possible and be done with it
If you want to reach then reach in the later rounds
Your first (and probably second) round pick should be as safe of a pick as possible... unless you are picking near the end of the first round and a top five talent drops into your lap... just take the safest player possible and be done with it
If you want to reach then reach in the later rounds
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:44 pm to molsusports
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Your first (and probably second) round pick should be as safe of a pick as possible.
this is verbatim what bill parcels said. its why the dolphins passed on matt ryan and took jake long.
OL and DL have a smaller bust % than QB.
now that didnt work out great for them, but jake long is a VERY good left tackle. matt ryan could have easily been a bust.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:48 pm to death valley driver
Are they picking him?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:50 pm to hg
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Are they picking him?
Everyone seems to think so.
Can teams discuss the parameters of deals as they could in the past? Not sure due to lockout.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:51 pm to death valley driver
I personally would rather select Mallett over Newton if I was going to make him the almost immediate starter. Mallett has played longer and has been learning in an offense similar in complexity to the pros.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:52 pm to DEANintheYAY
It isn't clear to me whether there is a rookie salary cap for this years first round picks... I assume there will be
Sounds like teams are being allowed to trade draft picks tho... although free agent signings are a "not yet"
Sounds like teams are being allowed to trade draft picks tho... although free agent signings are a "not yet"
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:53 pm to death valley driver
fwiw im happy the panthers are doing this. i want them to fail
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:53 pm to death valley driver
Honestly, I'm beginning to think Newton is going to be a good pick.
Highest ceiling in the draft. He's dumb, but so are 99% of his peers. You can't ignore the success he has had (an undefeated season achieved almost solely from his doing in the parity of today's CFB). I question his support system, his aspirations, but I don't think anyone can question his work ethic or desire to succeed. If the Panthers are cognizant of his strengths and weaknesses and develop a system that sets him up for success, he will succeed.
/SIMPSON OUT
Highest ceiling in the draft. He's dumb, but so are 99% of his peers. You can't ignore the success he has had (an undefeated season achieved almost solely from his doing in the parity of today's CFB). I question his support system, his aspirations, but I don't think anyone can question his work ethic or desire to succeed. If the Panthers are cognizant of his strengths and weaknesses and develop a system that sets him up for success, he will succeed.
/SIMPSON OUT
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:55 pm to death valley driver
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what are the panthers thinking
its a smoke screen. Panthers will not take cam newton. Consider it my lock of the week.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:55 pm to Simpson
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onestly, I'm beginning to think Newton is going to be a good pick
lulz
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If the Panthers are cognizant of his strengths and weaknesses and develop a system that sets him up for success, he will succeed.
cam is vince young, not mike vick. if vince couldnt make it on a run first team with a FANTASTIC RB, how is cam?
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/SIMPSON OUT
double lulz
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:57 pm to death valley driver
Why wouldn't they pick him? They not only get a QB, but an entertainer AND an icon!!!
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:57 pm to Colonel Flagg
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I personally would rather select Mallett over Newton if I was going to make him the almost immediate starter. Mallett has played longer and has been learning in an offense similar in complexity to the pros.
on carolina I'm not sure a sitting duck will do very well
short term I think Cam does better than Mallet would on the Panthers... long term I agree Mallett could easily be the better choice... if we're being honest it is probably 50/50 on either one being a real NFL QB five years from now
Posted on 4/28/11 at 3:59 pm to Simpson
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/SIMPSON OUT
Thanks for the clarification, I didn't know where your post ended and the next one began.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 4:00 pm to death valley driver
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how does drafting a run first QB with less than 300 career passes and multiple maturity issues, with a rookie defensive minded head coach, a year after you picked a QB in the second round 1st overall sound like a good idea????!
Shush already, Saints approve this move. Please let them take Scam it will be a great day for Saints fans.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 4:00 pm to jcole4lsu
quote:Cam > Vince Young
cam is vince young, not mike vick. if vince couldnt make it on a run first team with a FANTASTIC RB, how is cam?
And we all know a large part of Young's demise is his lack of dedication and the culture in which he came from (UT).
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