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re: Hornet's Bad Management and Coaching Decisions - Let Paul Go!
Posted on 3/31/11 at 5:10 pm to Eman5805
Posted on 3/31/11 at 5:10 pm to Eman5805
Carl Landry is not an even trade with Thornton...
Carl Landry is a vet, and past his prime over 2 seasons ago... He may have been putting up some decent numbers lately, but he doesnt have the potential to get better like Thornton does.... In fact, if D. West doesnt go down then the guy is the 3rd or 4th big man off the bench behind West, Okafor, and (depending on how the game is going) anyone of our larger/more defensive minded bigs. While Landry is a solid player, he is no stud and will never play any better than he is right now.... in fact, he is a lesser player than D. west and will be 28 next season already
Thornton has been an extremely efficient young guard in this league to date, with a P.E.R. (player efficiency rating to those who dont know)that is in the top 10-15 SG's in the NBA. He has thus far exhibited excellent shooting touch and range, and is shooting almost .500 from the floor since the trade to Sacremento, and is shooting over.400 from the 3 point line.... These are standout percentages for guards, this kid can stroke it. Furthermore, Thornton is FARRRR from reaching his potential, and at this point will be given every opportunity to get there as the Kings will pair him with their former R.O.Y. PG Tyreke Evans, and let them run the floor... Additionally, since getting Thornton, the Kings have won 7 games or so, when they have a total of 20 wins on the season... and he's still only 23....
Point is the Hornets did F-up.... they should have never traded Bayless for Jack--- we basically spent the 1st rounder we used on Bayless for a 5 year Vet who is nothing better than a decent back-up PG with some versatility to play a little SG as well, which was a very bad decision... Also, trading Thornton for Landry was not a good trade and I'm sure the Kings were ecstatic to unload Landry for a player paid far less money, that is younger with a far higher ceiling.... let me add that it is hard to find SG's with range out to the 3 point line, that can slash like Thornton can, and play physical when neccessary - Just ask the Hornets, we have had Horrid SG play for years now....
Carl Landry is a vet, and past his prime over 2 seasons ago... He may have been putting up some decent numbers lately, but he doesnt have the potential to get better like Thornton does.... In fact, if D. West doesnt go down then the guy is the 3rd or 4th big man off the bench behind West, Okafor, and (depending on how the game is going) anyone of our larger/more defensive minded bigs. While Landry is a solid player, he is no stud and will never play any better than he is right now.... in fact, he is a lesser player than D. west and will be 28 next season already
Thornton has been an extremely efficient young guard in this league to date, with a P.E.R. (player efficiency rating to those who dont know)that is in the top 10-15 SG's in the NBA. He has thus far exhibited excellent shooting touch and range, and is shooting almost .500 from the floor since the trade to Sacremento, and is shooting over.400 from the 3 point line.... These are standout percentages for guards, this kid can stroke it. Furthermore, Thornton is FARRRR from reaching his potential, and at this point will be given every opportunity to get there as the Kings will pair him with their former R.O.Y. PG Tyreke Evans, and let them run the floor... Additionally, since getting Thornton, the Kings have won 7 games or so, when they have a total of 20 wins on the season... and he's still only 23....
Point is the Hornets did F-up.... they should have never traded Bayless for Jack--- we basically spent the 1st rounder we used on Bayless for a 5 year Vet who is nothing better than a decent back-up PG with some versatility to play a little SG as well, which was a very bad decision... Also, trading Thornton for Landry was not a good trade and I'm sure the Kings were ecstatic to unload Landry for a player paid far less money, that is younger with a far higher ceiling.... let me add that it is hard to find SG's with range out to the 3 point line, that can slash like Thornton can, and play physical when neccessary - Just ask the Hornets, we have had Horrid SG play for years now....
This post was edited on 3/31/11 at 5:15 pm
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 5:15 pm to P bean
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Carl Landry is a vet, and past his prime over 2 seasons ago.
He's been in the league for 3 years.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 5:21 pm to Fun Bunch
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He's been in the league for 3 years.
Naw this was his 4th year in the league, but he's been on the decline since he was sent to the Kings, and he will be 28 by next season... he had a good season in 2009-2010 and thats it....
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his rebounding totals are horrible for a PF
This post was edited on 3/31/11 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 3/31/11 at 5:30 pm to P bean
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and he's still only 23....
He will get a little better but I I think he is pretty close to what you see is what you get. He will be 24 before the NBA season is over
His size and limited athletic ability, for an NBA SG, really limit his upside. I like him as a player but don't see the upside.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 5:38 pm to P bean
Why do Thorntontards always frame this argument as though people that aren't outraged and carrying a torch and pitchfork over the Thornton trade think he sucks? On HR there are some people that downplay Thornton's value, but here most people accept that he's quite the offensive gem and think Monty did make a mistake by not working harder to fit Thornton into the long term plans. I really don't think you'll find many people on this board that are happy that Thornton didn't work out yet outraged idiots like you come here acting like we've all been saying good riddance. What we have done is MOVED ON and accepted that we now have Landry and he's really not a bad player and gives us some things we were missing. We also realize that Belinelli, Jack and Green have stepped up in Thornton's absence and while we did trade a good player away, he wasn't the only SG on the roster.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 5:42 pm to TigerinATL
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We also realize that Belinelli, Jack and Green have stepped up in Thornton's absence and while we did trade a good player away, he wasn't the only SG on the roster.
They were always above Thornton, they didnt need to step up we didnt use thornton
Posted on 3/31/11 at 8:03 pm to Iamnick
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but has more potential than Jefferson and Milsap combined.
Jefferson came in as one loaded with potential and is likely the most underrated offensive center in the game.If Howard had Jefferson's game,he'd be in the pantheon of all time great big men.Jefferson is atrocious on D,where he gives up points to his counterpart and does not seal off the basket like great big men do.Some of that is athletic ability,lateral quickness,etc. but injuries will do that to people.Being on losing teams doesn't help either.
Favors is like a lot of other athletic big men,tons of potential,but needs more experience having the offense flow through him(read: should have stayed in college). He's now in a place where he's can work on his game and less about producing.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 8:51 pm to TigerNSac
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.one thing for sure is that Marcus Thorton is going to be a star that will not be denied.
I think it will be denied.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:10 pm to P bean
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I'm sure the Kings were ecstatic to unload Landry for a player paid far less money, that is younger with a far higher ceiling.... let me add that it is hard to find SG's with range out to the 3 point line, that can slash like Thornton can, and play physical when neccessary - Just ask the Hornets, we have had Horrid SG play for years now....
Thornton is an expiring contract. He is a free agent which made his value less in trades. It not even a certainty the Hornets or Kings can sign him in the offseason.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:49 pm to Colonel Flagg
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He had to leave the King's because his talent level did not fit the team's concept.
Applied to Thornton:
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He had to leave the Hornets because his talent level did not fit the team's concept.
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MT has a bigger impact on this team than what Landry could ever do for the Hornet's
Read above.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 8:42 am to TigerNSac
Drop that knowledge on them hornetards!!!!! 
Posted on 4/1/11 at 9:27 am to dj30
here we go, only time you post is on a thorntonino thread and you continue to prove me right.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 9:42 am to JayJay2
Thornton is gone...LET IT GO AND SHUT THE frick UP ABOUT IT!!! or move to Aneheim or Sacramento so you can beat off to Thornton's offensive producting for a bottom tier team. You cant change or undo the trade so what is the point of whining about it? We would have been going after Carl Landry anyway right after West went down and everyone knows it. I hardly think landry averaging about 20 points a game and about 7 rebounds is subpar in taking over for West. Hes a good player, not past his prime, and still learning with a new team.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 10:41 am to P bean
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.He had to leave the King's because his talent level did not fit the team's concept.
The Kings are about I I I I.
there is no "team concept" for the kings.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 10:44 am to RaginCajunsULL
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The Kings are about I I I I.
there is no "team concept" for the kings.
Exactly my point about Thornton. He'll never be a great player on a great team. He didn't want to do summer league. He didn't want to be a 6th man. He didn't want to show up to Monty's sessions installing his defense, so he didn't...when EVERYONE else did.
He wants to score.
This post was edited on 4/1/11 at 10:45 am
Posted on 4/1/11 at 10:59 am to Jakesonaplane
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Thornton is gone...LET IT GO AND SHUT THE frick UP ABOUT IT!!! or move to Aneheim or Sacramento so you can beat off to Thornton's offensive producting for a bottom tier team. You cant change or undo the trade so what is the point of whining about it?
Beat off watching basketball? no thanks
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We would have been going after Carl Landry anyway right after West went down and everyone knows it.
Shows how much you know slap****
Trade deadline is long gone, we couldnt have gone after anybody after West went down fool, trade deadline was in April and D. West went out for season in late march
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everyone knows it
Love this part, because it shows your ignorance
This post was edited on 4/1/11 at 11:01 am
Posted on 4/1/11 at 11:11 am to P bean
i think its YOU who's showing your ignorance.
Posted on 4/1/11 at 11:19 am to P bean
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Trade deadline is long gone, we couldnt have gone after anybody after West went down fool, trade deadline was in April and D. West went out for season in late march
You're right i made a mistake...for some reason i thought sacramento cut him. MY MISTAKE. This is me admitting that i didnt know what i was talking about. i think most people on here are waiting for you to do the same...how bout that April trade deadline huh? i cant remember the last time February 24th fell on a day in APRIL. Jan. FEB. March April...shall i continue???
This post was edited on 4/1/11 at 11:21 am
Posted on 4/1/11 at 11:41 am to Jakesonaplane
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...how bout that April trade deadline huh? i cant remember the last time February 24th fell on a day in APRIL. Jan. FEB. March April...shall i continue???
BOOM anyone?
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