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Why Isn't Mike Vanderjagt Still Kicking In The NFL?

Posted on 2/2/11 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Tiger JJ
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 4:04 pm
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In the entryway of a small Italian restaurant in the back of a shopping plaza, the leading scorer in Colts history paces. He looks out through the front door and checks his BlackBerry. It’s 7 p.m. on a fall Monday. He came here tonight, to the restaurant he’s owned for five years, to teach some football to the locals. He wants to talk about everything he learned in nine years in the league. “Bring a mate!” say the flyers on the door. “First drink free!” His name is known by millions. He played with some of the best ever, and some of the best ever looked to him to win games for them. More often than not, he did. But tonight, nobody wants to learn football from him. Nobody’s coming.

So Mike Vanderjagt heads to the back of the restaurant.

When he left football, three years ago, he was the most accurate professional kicker to ever play his position. Jan Stenerud, now in the Hall of Fame, made 66.8 percent of his tries. Vanderjagt made 86.5. Stenerud missed 47 kicks from 50 yards or longer; Vanderjagt missed 36 field goals in his entire career. He’s 40 now, and although that’s old for pretty much any athlete, it’s not old for a kicker. John Carney is still active at 46. Morten Anderson kicked until 47. And here’s Vanderjagt, in game shape, planning to go out to a high school field the next day to boot a few. “I should be the kicker for the New Orleans Saints,” he says, sipping a Pepsi. Vanderjagt was always blustery, but usually he was right. And let’s face it: lots of NFL teams have kickers worse than Vanderjagt.

So why is this man sitting here alone in a pizza place?

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Some might think the answer comes down to two phrases: “idiot kicker” and “liquored up.”


Interesting article.

I SWEAR I read once that he played some skill positions while in the CFL - receiver, I believe. Does anyone remember anything to that effect ever?

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Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 4:08 pm to
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Why Isn't Mike Vanderjagt Still Kicking In The NFL?



Because he kicked so well that he was too pricey for teams to pay.
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 4:12 pm to
On May 31, 2008, the Toronto Argonauts signed Vanderjagt and traded their veteran kicker Noel Prefontaine to the Edmonton Eskimos.[2][9] Vanderjagt claimed he really wanted to return to Toronto and his hometown "regardless of what NFL team called" as he missed the sport, missed the area, and missed his friends and family, which include his wife Janalyn and their 9 year old son Jay Michael
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 4:22 pm to
quote:


Some might think the answer comes down to two phrases: “idiot kicker” and “liquored up.”

Manning was just mad because he was right

And the following season he had probably the best season of any kicker in NFL history.
Posted by floridatigah
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 4:43 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/12/11 at 6:51 pm
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 4:47 pm to
Because he's a head case.....
Posted by LSUgators
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

Vandershank

wasn't really the best under pressure. He was also too cocky to be tolerated by teammates.
This post was edited on 2/2/11 at 5:36 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 5:41 pm to
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wasn't really the best under pressure.

Who cares?

Football is about winning games. His consistency probably allowed them to win more games than his few chokes may have lost them games.

I remember seeing the dude kick a game winning field goal against Denver in mile high stadium that was like 57 yards in pretty shitty conditions. The guy is fricking bad arse and Peyton Manning was the real idiot IMO.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

he was the most accurate professional kicker to ever play his position.


quote:

Because he's a head case.....


hmm...
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 6:51 pm to
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Football is about winning games. His consistency probably allowed them to win more games than his few chokes may have lost them games.

I remember seeing the dude kick a game winning field goal against Denver in mile high stadium that was like 57 yards in pretty shitty conditions. The guy is fricking bad arse and Peyton Manning was the real idiot IMO.


Rules to learn if you want to be a football player

1) Don't be a kicker, people tend to believe kickers aren't "real" football players

2) Don't call out an all pro quarterback (manning) and then expect nothing bad to happen to you because of it.
Posted by GroundsKeeperWillie
Houston
Member since Jan 2011
680 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

I should be the kicker for the New Orleans Saints,


Eh, I'd consider him over Hartley. I've never really been a Hartley fan.
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11835 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 7:04 pm to
if the Saints had him, they would have had homefield advantage this year

Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
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Posted on 2/12/11 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Vandershank


quote:

wasn't really the best under pressure


He made 230 out of 266 field goals and is still the most accurate field goal kicker in the history of the game. You think there wasn't just a little bit of pressure for the 230 kicks that he made?

quote:

He was also too cocky to be tolerated by teammates.


“He has a cool, laid-back personality,” says the former Colts All-Pro running back (Edgerrin James). “He was one of my closest friends on the team.”

Anyway, I just found this article, I'm not going to lie, before I read it the first thing I thought about was Peyton's drunk idiot comment. I have always appreciated Peyton's willingness to speak his mind, but for him to not come out and clear the record afterwards, which may very well could have saved Vanderjagt's career, is pretty shitty.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175868 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

if the Saints had him, they would have had homefield advantage this year

If the Saints had virtually any other kicker this season they would have had homefield.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

which may very well could have saved Vanderjagt's career


I thought it was pretty well established in the article that Manning's comments had nothing to do with his career ending. And while he was incredibly accurate the vast majority of the time, he did badly miss some of the biggest attempts of his career.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26718 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

he did badly miss some of the biggest attempts of his career.



As Powerman pointed out, this isn't a good train of thought. When you make 87% of your kicks, you've probably gotten your team to a point where those "biggest attempts" wouldn't have even been possible without previous consistent success.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 5:13 pm to
Meh, I'm not saying that he wasn't an excellent kicker, but I followed the Colts and saw basically his entire career with them. It was obvious that the pressure could get to him at certain points. He's one of the greatest kickers of all time, but he's certainly no Vinatieri on game winning attempts. The one that he shanked so badly some fans actually believed he did it on purpose comes to mind.
Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
4378 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

I thought it was pretty well established in the article that Manning's comments had nothing to do with his career ending.


To the contrary,
quote:

But the irony here -- and the real reason Vanderjagt is out of football -- is that he’s not a study in swagger. Not even close. “I’m not smooth,” he says
Its possible Vanderjagt could have said or done some other shite behind closed doors that he wouldnt admit to the author, but had Peyton come out and publicly squashed everything, it may have made some teams think twice about writing MV off. Vanderjagt's only playoff miss with the game on the line was the Pittsburgh game. As a matter of fact, in '03 he never missed a single field goal or XP the entire season including the playoffs, which has never been done by anyone else.

But its so true that if you mention that dude's name to anyone that knows anything about football, they immediately call him a drunk idiot that folds under pressure, which according to the article and his stats, just isnt the case.
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