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GW Talks LBs
Posted on 1/29/11 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 1/29/11 at 1:48 pm
Williams debunked the myth that he isn't interested in the "tweener" defensive end/linebacker prospects who project as better fits in 3-4 defenses than the 4-3 front New Orleans primarily uses.
"In all honesty, I want good football players," Williams said.
The aggressive coach, who is known to use a lot of variety and creativity in his schemes, added his popular refrain: "We have 30 ways to add up to 11. So we can use all those kinds of guys."
What Williams did stress, however, is that he isn't interested in one-dimensional players.
"Yeah, the guy that's a 250-pound, 248-pound five-technique defensive end that's (not intelligent), that can't cover anybody, I don't want them," Williams said. "Because you get (Saints offensive tackle Jermon) Bushrod and big tackles like him, they'll just (flatten him)."
Williams pointed to former Saints strongside linebacker Scott Fujita as one of those "tweener" types who was a perfect fit in the defenses he likes to run. He said after the 6-5, 250-pound Fujita left for Cleveland in free agency, the Saints used four linebackers in rotation to share all the duties that Fujita used to handle.
"You get an (Brian) Orakpo (of the Redskins), Shawne Merriman (of the Bills), those kind of guys, that's a Fujita. We have all those kinds of guys. But they have to be more than just a pass rusher to fit into what we're doing," Williams said before waving an arm toward the practice field. "There's a couple guys that look like that out here right now."
One young player already in the Saints' fold who could fit into that category is 2010 rookie Junior Galette, a raw defensive end from Stillman College who signed with the Saints as an undrafted free agent. Galette spent time at end and outside linebacker in practices, and he showed some explosive playmaking potential during the preseason. But he rarely saw the field during the regular season, other than some special teams work, because he needed to refine those other dimensions of his game.
"The guy I'm really anxious to give him his chance next year is Junior. He's earned the right to get a chance now," Williams said, explaining that Galette has added power to his 6-2 frame and bulked up to 266 pounds from 258.
But he said Galette still has a lot to learn, and he admitted that he's been hard on him during his first year of that process.
"Right now, he still don't know what he don't know," Williams said.
As for smaller outside linebackers, Williams also is high on two young, but injury-plagued, players on the Saints' roster: third-year pros Jonathan Casillas and Stanley Arnoux.
Casillas (6-1, 227) was in line to win a starting job at weakside linebacker this past season before he suffered a season-ending foot injury during training camp.
"I love the kid," Williams said of the undrafted free agent from Wisconsin. "Can he play in this league? Absolutely. And here's gonna be the telling thing with Jon is: Will his body allow him to play? Because he plays exactly how you want him to play. He's vicious. He's nasty. He plays fast. He's fearless. Now, does he possess the rare gene to recover from week to week and day to day? I can't wait to watch him play."
Arnoux (6-0, 232) played in nine games, mostly on special teams, before suffering a season-ending Achilles tendon injury. The hard-luck Arnoux, who was drafted in the fourth round out of Wake Forest, has now injured both Achilles tendons in his first two NFL seasons.
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"In all honesty, I want good football players," Williams said.
The aggressive coach, who is known to use a lot of variety and creativity in his schemes, added his popular refrain: "We have 30 ways to add up to 11. So we can use all those kinds of guys."
What Williams did stress, however, is that he isn't interested in one-dimensional players.
"Yeah, the guy that's a 250-pound, 248-pound five-technique defensive end that's (not intelligent), that can't cover anybody, I don't want them," Williams said. "Because you get (Saints offensive tackle Jermon) Bushrod and big tackles like him, they'll just (flatten him)."
Williams pointed to former Saints strongside linebacker Scott Fujita as one of those "tweener" types who was a perfect fit in the defenses he likes to run. He said after the 6-5, 250-pound Fujita left for Cleveland in free agency, the Saints used four linebackers in rotation to share all the duties that Fujita used to handle.
"You get an (Brian) Orakpo (of the Redskins), Shawne Merriman (of the Bills), those kind of guys, that's a Fujita. We have all those kinds of guys. But they have to be more than just a pass rusher to fit into what we're doing," Williams said before waving an arm toward the practice field. "There's a couple guys that look like that out here right now."
One young player already in the Saints' fold who could fit into that category is 2010 rookie Junior Galette, a raw defensive end from Stillman College who signed with the Saints as an undrafted free agent. Galette spent time at end and outside linebacker in practices, and he showed some explosive playmaking potential during the preseason. But he rarely saw the field during the regular season, other than some special teams work, because he needed to refine those other dimensions of his game.
"The guy I'm really anxious to give him his chance next year is Junior. He's earned the right to get a chance now," Williams said, explaining that Galette has added power to his 6-2 frame and bulked up to 266 pounds from 258.
But he said Galette still has a lot to learn, and he admitted that he's been hard on him during his first year of that process.
"Right now, he still don't know what he don't know," Williams said.
As for smaller outside linebackers, Williams also is high on two young, but injury-plagued, players on the Saints' roster: third-year pros Jonathan Casillas and Stanley Arnoux.
Casillas (6-1, 227) was in line to win a starting job at weakside linebacker this past season before he suffered a season-ending foot injury during training camp.
"I love the kid," Williams said of the undrafted free agent from Wisconsin. "Can he play in this league? Absolutely. And here's gonna be the telling thing with Jon is: Will his body allow him to play? Because he plays exactly how you want him to play. He's vicious. He's nasty. He plays fast. He's fearless. Now, does he possess the rare gene to recover from week to week and day to day? I can't wait to watch him play."
Arnoux (6-0, 232) played in nine games, mostly on special teams, before suffering a season-ending Achilles tendon injury. The hard-luck Arnoux, who was drafted in the fourth round out of Wake Forest, has now injured both Achilles tendons in his first two NFL seasons.
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Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:37 pm to blueslover
I am in the minority in thinking that we're ok at lb if everyone is healthy. At least now I think that my thinking is right.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 2:42 pm to Sophandros
I have a sinking feeling that Arnoux won't work. tearing one Achilles is bad enough, both is tough long term on the body.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 3:54 pm to Sophandros
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I am in the minority in thinking that we're ok at lb if everyone is healthy. At least now I think that my thinking is right.
Tha fvck? What team did you watch this year?
Posted on 1/29/11 at 4:04 pm to FootballNostradamus
I am excited for Casillas and Junior to contribute. Both are speed guys who have shown they can get to the QB in positions where the Saints have not been very threatening.
The Saints would be much improved at Weakside with Casillas, but I feel they could still use an upgrade over Shanle at LB.
The Saints would be much improved at Weakside with Casillas, but I feel they could still use an upgrade over Shanle at LB.
Posted on 1/29/11 at 9:10 pm to Maximus
I got flamed on a draft thread about von miller for posting similar links... Lol I dont know whats wrong with some folks on here...
GW loves blitzing LB's, I like this thread, now all people screaming the saints wouldnt draft a rush LB can stfu
GW loves blitzing LB's, I like this thread, now all people screaming the saints wouldnt draft a rush LB can stfu
Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:35 am to P bean
were they saying they didnt want von miller?
or that they didn't want to give up the rest of out draft to get von miller?
anyone who wouldnt want that kid or doesnt think GW could utilze the crap out of him; is crazy.
anyone who doesn't want to reach to far when we have a few areas to shore up- i tend to agree
or that they didn't want to give up the rest of out draft to get von miller?
anyone who wouldnt want that kid or doesnt think GW could utilze the crap out of him; is crazy.
anyone who doesn't want to reach to far when we have a few areas to shore up- i tend to agree
Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:44 am to fclsutiger72
we just need a pass rusher or if we do not get a pass rusher a shutdown corner will be good
Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:55 am to Smedium27
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or if we do not get a pass rusher a shutdown corner will be good
yeah we need more corners obviously
Posted on 1/30/11 at 10:15 am to FootballNostradamus
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Tha fvck? What team did you watch this year?
well considering not everyone at LB was healthy at any point during the regular season (including a starter) we have no way of knowing...maybe you should think before you rush to make your snarky posts
This post was edited on 1/30/11 at 10:16 am
Posted on 1/30/11 at 10:16 am to Smedium27
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we just need a pass rusher or if we do not get a pass rusher a shutdown corner will be good
no corner is a shutdown corner if you can't generate a pass rush
Posted on 1/30/11 at 10:24 am to St Augustine
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no corner is a shutdown corner if you can't generate a pass rush
agreed, thats why I really want that tweener player but if Greg Williams doesnt want that then hopefully we get a pass rusher defensive end
Posted on 1/30/11 at 11:03 am to Maximus
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yeah we need more corners obviously
Exactly, Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter are just garbage....
Posted on 1/30/11 at 11:04 am to LSUpsychWARD
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Exactly, Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter are just garbage
If they can last a whole season they would be better
Posted on 1/30/11 at 11:07 am to Smedium27
the thing is on an nfl roster if you have 2 good starters you simply can't invest in 5 deep at the corner position. You don't have the cash, or roster space to do so.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 11:12 am to St Augustine
If will smith wasn't guaranteed almost 70 million dollars we would have alot more money
Posted on 1/30/11 at 1:04 pm to blueslover
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"You get an (Brian) Orakpo (of the Redskins), Shawne Merriman (of the Bills), those kind of guys, that's a Fujita.
this is the nicest thing ever said about scott fujita. nicer than anything his parents have said about him. fact.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 1:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
Quote: "were they saying they didnt want von miller?
or that they didn't want to give up the rest of out draft to get von miller?
anyone who wouldnt want that kid or doesnt think GW could utilze the crap out of him; is crazy." Quote:
They were sayin the saints wouldnt want von miller, never use the 3-4, GW wouldnt want him etc....
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or that they didn't want to give up the rest of out draft to get von miller?
anyone who wouldnt want that kid or doesnt think GW could utilze the crap out of him; is crazy." Quote:
They were sayin the saints wouldnt want von miller, never use the 3-4, GW wouldnt want him etc....
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