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Why do you people think Gruden is a good coach?

Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:45 am
Posted by PRK
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:45 am
He came in to Tampa Bay and won a Super Bowl his first year with Tony Dungy's LOADED team, and then proceeded to run the Buccaneers franchise into the ground and was fired.

No recruiting experience. Failure in the pros. Where is the upside? Being an ESPN analyst only qualifies you as being a jerkoff.
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:46 am to
They like midgets at LSU?
Posted by Banshee
City of Central, La
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:46 am to
Posted by nuke
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:53 am to
If he is such a good coach, why is he not coaching right now and for the last few yew years as well.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44888 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:54 am to
I dont. I think he's a douche bag.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69541 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:55 am to
quote:

He came in to Tampa Bay and won a Super Bowl his first year with Tony Dungy's LOADED team


so why didn't Dungy win the year before?

quote:

then proceeded to run the Buccaneers franchise into the ground and was fired.


was he the general manager?

He definitely knows alot about coaching.....but it isn't known whether or not he can recruit or wants to recruit.
Posted by CT09
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
280 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:56 am to
He would be very attractive to 18 year old boys recruiting no problem. Offensive mind,firey guy, big name, I think kids would love this guy, I think he would be a better coach in college than the pros. His name alone would spark a program.
Posted by aVatiger
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:57 am to
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:57 am to
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He would be very attractive to 18 year old boys
i RA'd
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:59 am to
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He came in to Tampa Bay and won a Super Bowl his first year with Tony Dungy's LOADED team


To be fair, he left a pretty good team in Oakland that ended up winning some games as well...and doing what Dungy couldn't do is a pretty big accomplishment.

quote:

Failure in the pros.


According to a post yesterday (not verified), Gruden has a .540 winning percentage in the pros. Where do you think that would rank him among active NFL coaches?
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:02 am to
quote:

He would be very attractive to 18 year old boys


i RA'd
lol! good one
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78608 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:12 am to
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He came in to Tampa Bay and won a Super Bowl his first year with Tony Dungy's LOADED team


If you're going to play this card then you have to give him credit for the Oakland team that he left loaded that Bill Calahan brought to the superbowl.

He was also on the verge of another superbowl appearance in 2001 with Oakland if not for the infamous tuck rule.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:14 am to
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I dont. I think he's a douche bag.


I've heard most that play for him think the same thing.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:15 am to
no one really knows what he might do in college, they just drool over the fact that it would be big news and put the spotlight on LSU. We care more about being featured on SportsCenter than we do getting the right guy for the job.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:16 am to
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Failure in the pros
some of you need to educate yourself before you post ignorant stuff like this...
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89017 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:20 am to
[quote]If you're going to play this card then you have to give him credit for the Oakland team that he left loaded that Bill Calahan brought to the superbowl.[/quote

BINGO. He built that raider team he beat in the SB.he can coach. he has a SB ring. so many ill informed people here it is laughable.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89017 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:21 am to
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some of you need to educate yourself before you post ignorant stuff like this...


yep. agree 100% chicken.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89017 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:29 am to
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I've heard most that play for him think the same thing.


more unsubstantiated rumors.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64575 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:29 am to
Only 3 losing seasons out of 11 in the NFL with the Raiders and the Buccaneers. His last two seasons he won the NFC South with a 9-7 record and then missed the playoffs the following year with a 9-7 record. That's hardly "running the Buccaneers franchise into the ground", as you put it.

He had a 95-81 career NFL record (.540), won 1 Super Bowl, had a shot at another Super Bowl derailed when Tony Siragusa took a cheap shot at QB Rich Gannon and took him out of the game in the 1st quarter of the AFC Championship game.

Here's a couple of NFL coaches with their career winning percentage:

Steve Spurrier .375
Nick Saban .469
Pete Carroll .500
Bobby Petrino .230
Mike Holmgreen .541
Sean Payton .613
Mike Ditka .560
Bill Walsh .609


Winning in the NFL is not easy.
Posted by PRK
Member since Sep 2009
9142 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:29 am to
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some of you need to educate yourself before you post ignorant stuff like this...


It might be dramatic, but it isn't too far off the mark. His team in Oakland was undeniably talented. But once people had his offense figured out...

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Choupique19


Malcolm Glazer didn't give him the pink slip for no reason. Take a look at the drop-off from his Super Bowl TB team and through the following years. You can attribute that to the general manager failing to bring in talent, but keep in mind this was the same GM who brought in John Lynch, Derrick Brooks, Ronde Barber, Warren Sapp, etc. Pretty great talent evaluator.
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