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Death to the BCS
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:04 pm
By Dan Wetzel, Josh Peter and Jeff Passan.
Anybody ever read it? I found the argument to be pretty good.
And I, for one, did not realize that most schools actually make very little money or lose money off the bowl system if they can't sell their tix and they have to share with other teams in the conference.
Anybody ever read it? I found the argument to be pretty good.
And I, for one, did not realize that most schools actually make very little money or lose money off the bowl system if they can't sell their tix and they have to share with other teams in the conference.
This post was edited on 1/4/11 at 12:04 pm
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Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:05 pm to TxTiger82
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Dan Wetzel
Whiniest sports writer in history.
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:06 pm to tom
They have a damn strong argument in this book.
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:07 pm to TxTiger82
Is it true they're adding the Cotton Bowl to the BCS rotation soon. Heard someone in Oklahoma talkin about it.
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:08 pm to TxTiger82
For those who haven't read it, they basically argue that the Bowls are leeches holding the entire sport back.
They are essentially like the concert promoters who run off with all the cash in the end.
An on-campus playoff, they argue, would make the schools and conferences much much more money, both in terms of event revenue and television deals, and it would also be way more fair than the current system.
They are essentially like the concert promoters who run off with all the cash in the end.
An on-campus playoff, they argue, would make the schools and conferences much much more money, both in terms of event revenue and television deals, and it would also be way more fair than the current system.
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:09 pm to bayou2003
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Is it true they're adding the Cotton Bowl to the BCS rotation soon.
I think it is true that Jerry Jones is trying to make that happen.
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:22 pm to TxTiger82
Is Wetzel a German surname?
Sure sounds like it to me.
Sure sounds like it to me.
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:26 pm to TxTiger82
BCS does a great job pitting the top two teams in the BCS NC Game.
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:29 pm to Rockerbraves
I have read it and it is complete bullshite
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:37 pm to bencoleman
Why?
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:37 pm to TxTiger82
from the arguments posted from it on here, it's not that convincing and is a socialistic dream of bullshite
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:39 pm to TxTiger82
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they basically argue that the Bowls are leeches
i don't think anybody not associated with a bowl argues against this, really
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An on-campus playoff, they argue, would make the schools and conferences much much more money
yes
but how is it split?
and what kind of system can be created that isn't complete bullshite, pandering to the shite conferences who don't produce anything?
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:48 pm to emoney
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Why?
I haven't read the book, but one of the main arguments I've read that come from the book is misleading at best. They say schools are losing on off the bowl appearances but they seem to be only taking into account the money the school gets for its bowl only. Conferences share bowl money, so the schools are getting a share of bowls they aren't in and that cost them nothing. I know this wasn't in the book, but I saw it recently and its UConn. The Fiesta Bowl payout is like $20M, but they only get 1/8 since they share. From what I've seen, they are taking the UConn share which would be 2.5M and subtracting the costs, say 3M, from that total and saying they lost money. But UConn gets a share of all the other Big East bowls, they got the same share of the BCS money last year and every year they've been in the BCS. Also some of the cost, like coaches bonuses, are BS. They would have coaches bonuses regardless
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:53 pm to H-Town Tiger
they scew the figures to make their argument complete bullshite
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:58 pm to bencoleman
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they scew the figures to make their argument complete bullshite
that's pretty much what I thought from what I've read and heard about it
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:59 pm to bencoleman
The main problem I see with it. Some people who dont know the truth will actually believe their story. They know the truth but they dont put it in the story so they are lying on purpose.
Posted on 1/4/11 at 1:01 pm to H-Town Tiger
not just the profits/losses for bowls
they pick a random # a playoff would generate
they pick a random # a playoff would generate
Posted on 1/4/11 at 1:15 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Also some of the cost, like coaches bonuses, are BS. They would have coaches bonuses regardless
have you ever seen some of the bonuses they give the assistant ADs, sports information directions, the assistant SID, as well as countless other support staff that had NOTHING to do with the team getting to that particular bowl ? also, look at the sizes of these "official travel parties" that the school foots the bill from airfare to hotel to meals to tickets ... some lists are over 250 people at about $3K a pop .. this is why a lot of schools lose money individually on the individual bowl game ... but, as you say .. when it is all said and done, they rake it in when the conference kitty is pieced up ..
Posted on 1/4/11 at 1:19 pm to TxTiger82
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TxTiger82
Not that it bothers me or I care at all, but isn't this like the third time in a few months that you've made this post?
Posted on 1/4/11 at 1:25 pm to Rockerbraves
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BCS does a great job pitting the top two teams in the BCS NC Game.
Two of the top teams, not the top two teams.
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